YAPT: Why are flushes worth so much?

[Kev]

It seems like I see flushes more than I see 2 pair, three of a kind, and straights, yet the flush beats them all?

Did they put the flush in the game just to annoy people or something?

 

[hevnsnt]

They get rid of the waste

 

[pennylane]

I thought you were talking about toilets for a second. They're ranked based on probability of the event, and flushes are less common than 2 pair, 3 of a kind, and straights. I think it's just you.

 

[Beau]

You're 25x more likely to get two pair than a flush.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/vi.../poker/poker_odds.html

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Kev
It seems like I see flushes more than I see 2 pair, three of a kind, and straights, yet the flush beats them all?

Did they put the flush in the game just to annoy people or something?

I think what you are seeing is that flushes *win* more than two pair, thus skewing your viewpoint. Flushes are less mathematically common, that is why they are the higher rated hand.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Kev
It seems like I see flushes more than I see 2 pair, three of a kind, and straights, yet the flush beats them all?

Did they put the flush in the game just to annoy people or something?

I think what you are seeing is that flushes *win* more than two pair, thus skewing your viewpoint. Flushes are less mathematically common, that is why they are the higher rated hand.

And bing was his name-o.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
I thought you were talking about toilets for a second. They're ranked based on probability of the event, and flushes are less common than 2 pair, 3 of a kind, and straights. I think it's just you.

Yeah I thought P stood for POTTY.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
They get rid of the waste

the smell too.

 

[Kev]

I would think in a game like holdem, a straight would be much tougher to get than a flush, maybe it's just because I've been chased out too many times...

 

[MrDingleDangle]

yeah i agree that in holdem i think straights are harder to get, because its much less likely to stay in, but probabilty if you stayed in to the end of every hand you would get more straights then flushes

 

[Baked]

You would think straight beats flush since the former's harder to get, or what seems like harder to get in hold'em.

 

[Kev]

since posting this thread i have been sucked out by 3 flushes. what a garbage hand. i want to punch something

 

[generaltso88]

same here, i hate flushes, had two pair with ace and kings!

 

[Staples]

Speaking of this. In poker where they play with more than one deck of cards, is it possible to get 5 aces?

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Baked
You would think straight beats flush since the former's harder to get, or what seems like harder to get in hold'em.

a flush draw is easier to get than an open ended s8 draw... but getting s8 is easier than getting a flush

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
They get rid of the waste

took me a while to make the P + flush = Poker leap. I'm tired, lay off. A flush makes it so your house doesn't smell like shit.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Aren't poker hands mathematically rated anyway? IE, flush is mathematically harder to get than a straight, etc etc?

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Baked
You would think straight beats flush since the former's harder to get, or what seems like harder to get in hold'em.

a flush draw is easier to get than an open ended s8 draw... but getting s8 is easier than getting a flush

S8 = Seight =/= straight.

straight would have to be str8.

damn, can't even spell annoying words right.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Baked
You would think straight beats flush since the former's harder to get, or what seems like harder to get in hold'em.

a flush draw is easier to get than an open ended s8 draw... but getting s8 is easier than getting a flush

S8 = Seight =/= straight.

straight would have to be str8.

damn, can't even spell annoying words right.

uhhh everyone that plays poker understand that s8 means straight

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Baked
You would think straight beats flush since the former's harder to get, or what seems like harder to get in hold'em.

a flush draw is easier to get than an open ended s8 draw... but getting s8 is easier than getting a flush

S8 = Seight =/= straight.

straight would have to be str8.

damn, can't even spell annoying words right.

uhhh everyone that plays poker understand that s8 means straight

I understood it... but i thought it was STUPID.

 

[Mill]

Another reason it is hard to get a straight is that everyone can see what you are going for. It is much easier to risk that someone doesn't have two suited with the other cards on the board, than to risk that they only need one with 4 cards in order on the board.

 

[Orsorum]

I thought you were talking about toilets!

And IIRC the probability for flushes is less than 2 pair, 3 of a kind, etc.

 

[yoda291]

in texas hold em, the reason you see more flushes is more people are likely to chase them.

Observe.

I get 2 suited cards, I think "ooh, possible flush. I may play. Even if it's something like K 5"
I get 2 whatever cards like 5 7 and I think "crap".

If the board comes out with say more cards that are suited in my favor, then I end up chasing the hand. if not, then I end up looking at the relative strength of my hand and usually toss it.

Essentially, people play hands chasing flushes that they'd throw away if they were unsuited and you never get to see those little statistics. Ergo, more people chasing means more times you see the it come out.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: yoda291
in texas hold em, the reason you see more flushes is more people are likely to chase them.

Observe.

I get 2 suited cards, I think "ooh, possible flush. I may play. Even if it's something like K 5"
I get 2 whatever cards like 5 7 and I think "crap".

If the board comes out with say more cards that are suited in my favor, then I end up chasing the hand. if not, then I end up looking at the relative strength of my hand and usually toss it.

Essentially, people play hands chasing flushes that they'd throw away if they were unsuited and you never get to see those little statistics. Ergo, more people chasing means more times you see the it come out.

Yep.

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: Staples
Speaking of this. In poker where they play with more than one deck of cards, is it possible to get 5 aces?

I've never seen anyone play poker with more than one deck of cards...

are you thinking of black jack maybe?