Based on the "edited" video that we see, it's justified.
Cop pulls lady over for doing 71 in 55. Asks her to turn off vehicle while he walks back to his vehicle. Woman speeds off from that point. Cop chases her down and gets her pulled over again. Woman is going bat shit insane in yelling at the cop. Of course is cop is yelling at her, but giving her lawful orders especially in light of the fact she just fled from an officer moments ago. Cop asks woman to stand at the back side of the vehicle so she is in plain view while he goes back to his car. She instead rushes back into her vehicle forcing him to chase her. Then her teenage son exits the van to assault the officer. First officer brings out his taser to stop the boy and chases him around to side door. Boy locks the door as other police are arriving and witnessed the scene of the first officer being attacked and then chasing the boy back into the van. First officer tries to break window in to get at the family inside. Van starts to speed off as a third officer appears at the scene. Third officer is unaware of the occupants in the van, only that they assaulted a fellow officer and are now speeding off to resist arrest.
Cops can use up to deadly force in that instant. You DO NOT FLEE FROM OFFICERS AFTER PERFORMING A CRIME. Third officer fires, but it is clear he is shooting out the tires as the van flees. The video shows a tire was hit while being shot and later when the police catch up to the van the back left tire is flat.
All I can say from the editted video is that the shooting by the third officer at the van was indeed justified. I cannot believe that anyone could at all defend that woman. She is a complete idiot. And she basically used her younger children as a human shield. No different than a criminal taking a child as a hostage. She and her teenage son need to be behind bars for their actions for a very long time.
Shooting not justified...because the cop who did the shooting according the news reports came upon the scene late and was NOT aware that there were children in the van....POLL: justified or not?
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another ignorant post from HumblePie......the cop who did the shooting came upon the scene late and was not told or filled in on the circumstances.....kids in van.....that cop will lose his job over this.....just watch!! As he should!!Based on the "edited" video that we see, it's justified.
Cop pulls lady over for doing 71 in 55. Asks her to turn off vehicle while he walks back to his vehicle. Woman speeds off from that point. Cop chases her down and gets her pulled over again. Woman is going bat shit insane in yelling at the cop. Of course is cop is yelling at her, but giving her lawful orders especially in light of the fact she just fled from an officer moments ago. Cop asks woman to stand at the back side of the vehicle so she is in plain view while he goes back to his car. She instead rushes back into her vehicle forcing him to chase her. Then her teenage son exits the van to assault the officer. First officer brings out his taser to stop the boy and chases him around to side door. Boy locks the door as other police are arriving and witnessed the scene of the first officer being attacked and then chasing the boy back into the van. First officer tries to break window in to get at the family inside. Van starts to speed off as a third officer appears at the scene. Third officer is unaware of the occupants in the van, only that they assaulted a fellow officer and are now speeding off to resist arrest.
Cops can use up to deadly force in that instant. You DO NOT FLEE FROM OFFICERS AFTER PERFORMING A CRIME. Third officer fires, but it is clear he is shooting out the tires as the van flees. The video shows a tire was hit while being shot and later when the police catch up to the van the back left tire is flat.
All I can say from the editted video is that the shooting by the third officer at the van was indeed justified. I cannot believe that anyone could at all defend that woman. She is a complete idiot. And she basically used her younger children as a human shield. No different than a criminal taking a child as a hostage. She and her teenage son need to be behind bars for their actions for a very long time.
It was no longer a ticket after the son attacked the officer and she decided to resist arrest. And, the officer didn't just shoot into the cabin from what I saw in the video.
Can't they just follow her? Not enough crime to shoot a family. Why not just get back in the car and pursuit again. Now she has 4 violations on her. Just keep adding that violations and call a backup. Its establish the mom is nuts but do you shoot a crazy person because they are crazy. People do crazy things if they have to pay a fine.
another ignorant post from HumblePie......the cop who did the shooting came upon the scene late and was not told or filled in on the circumstances.....kids in van.....that cop will lose his job over this.....just watch!! As he should!!
You cares if its just a ticket or not, its not like the van was shooting at anyone....the police shot at unarmed people FFS, there is no case where that is acceptable IMO
One, it was never established they were unarmed until after the chase was over. They could have easily had a gun in the car, I'd imagine quite a few fellow ATOTs have guns in their car. Two, a car traveling at high speeds running from police after the driver was acting erratically is highly likely to cause an accident resulting in harm to innocent people, officers, or themselves. In no world should it be okay to disobey a police officer trying to do his job after you've broken the law, who gave you the benefit of the doubt by pulling you over a second time after you disobeyed him. Then, to be belligerent with said officer and have another passenger attempt to assault said officer? She is lucky her kid wasn't shot.
While that is true, it doesn't matter. They assaulted an officer before fleeing. They demonstrated they were violent ad committed a felony right there. By speeding off they are presenting themselves as a danger to the public in a willingness to use a vehicle in a high speed chase. Luckily the cop shot out the tire that prevented that sort of high speed chase from occurring which could have turned into a big tragedy. Instead we have a bunch of people on the internet that don't under the law or the situation being presented that are incorrectly denigrating the actions of the cops.
I feel like you are disagreeing with me and stopped reading after the first sentence. I said the exact same thing in my second point. =(
Your not reading what was already posted...sure the mother was a dipshit...but the lone cop and yes it was just one cop who did the shooting came upon the scene and didn`t bother to ask any of the cops who were already on the scene what the circumstances were.It would have been a tragic ending had the children been shot and hurt. My heart would have gone out to the children. But I wouldn't be stupid enough to blame the cops on that had it happened. I would put the blame SOLELY where it belongs. On that dipshit mother of theirs.
Your not reading what was already posted...sure the mother was a dipshit...but the lone cop and yes it was just one cop who did the shooting came upon the scene and didn`t bother to ask any of the cops who were already on the scene what the circumstances were.
Instead he just fired.......none of the other cops had their weapons drawn...this was a lone rogue cop who wanted to shoot his weapon at a van that he was not informed had children inside!!
Mother==dispshit!!
Lone cop==unemployed asshat dipshit cop!!
wrong how so.....what are you smoking??Wrong.
Other cops had a taser, billy club, and off to the side you see another cop with his hand on his gun. Simple fact, those are all weapons.
Again, the one cop witnessed another cop being assaulted and can see the perps fleeing the scene. He is legally justified based solely upon those two circumstances to use deadly force to stop the perps. And I agree with his shooting out the tires because 1) it stopped them from having a high speed chase 2) no one was injured.
The cop did the right thing at the right time. Completely justified in his actions.
One, it was never established they were unarmed until after the chase was over. They could have easily had a gun in the car, I'd imagine quite a few fellow ATOTs have guns in their car. Two, a car traveling at high speeds running from police after the driver was acting erratically is highly likely to cause an accident resulting in harm to innocent people, officers, or themselves. In no world should it be okay to disobey a police officer trying to do his job after you've broken the law, who gave you the benefit of the doubt by pulling you over a second time after you disobeyed him. Then, to be belligerent with said officer and have another passenger attempt to assault said officer? She is lucky her kid wasn't shot.
Well, I guess you do live in a country where you shot at each other all the time, however, unless they pull out a gun and start shooting......? I disagree that any chase should be taken at all...Would of been quite easy to follow at a safe distance, the fact that she was chased, made her try a sped off...
I still cant believe you think its acceptable to shoot at children in a van FCS....your country must truly be phucked if you think so...
You are insane. Or just a blatant cop hater. The fact that she was chase made her sped off? What kind of messed up logic is that?
Wow, 27 people think its okay to fire at innocent kids in a van...LMAO...FFS, only in America, land of the free eh...
Sad indeed.
With the shoot first and ask questions later mentality any one of them could wind up on the wrong side of a Police gun by just being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
The LADY put her kids in danger. If they were shot during the bullshit she started, SHE should be held liable.
Your not reading what was already posted...sure the mother was a dipshit...but the lone cop and yes it was just one cop who did the shooting came upon the scene and didn`t bother to ask any of the cops who were already on the scene what the circumstances were.
Instead he just fired.......none of the other cops had their weapons drawn...this was a lone rogue cop who wanted to shoot his weapon at a van that he was not informed had children inside!!
Mother==dispshit!!
Lone cop==unemployed asshat dipshit cop!!
While I'm not sure why most people voted in the affirmative, perhaps some already knew they were trying to "remotely spikestrip a vehicle piloted by a maniac" or some want to see certain segments of society dead, generally as long as you comply with a police officers requests -- yes they start out pleasant and request instead of command -- and show your hands to them at all times, things go very smoothly no matter your skin color. Any deviation from this will lead to an asswhooping, as Chris Rock pointed out.Sad indeed.
With the shoot first and ask questions later mentality any one of them could wind up on the wrong side of a Police gun by just being at the wrong place at the wrong time.