YASECT: cop sucker punches woman for no reason

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steve wilson

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Holy shit there is no way in hell that was justified. He could of detained her no problem with out that punch. It was simply rage that made him punch her... he's going to lose his job and probably get sued for it (or the department).
 
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Holy shit there is no way in hell that was justified. He could of detained her no problem with out that punch. It was simply rage that made him punch her... he's going to lose his job and probably get sued for it (or the department).


He's probably to get put on paid admin leave for a month while his fellow officers run an investigation that will determine he is not at fault.

Afterwards they will all go out and have beers, pat each other on the back, and discuss how she deserved it for something else she did in the past or she wouldn't have been there.
 

waggy

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He's probably to get put on paid admin leave for a month while his fellow officers run an investigation that will determine he is not at fault.

Afterwards they will all go out and have beers, pat each other on the back, and discuss how she deserved it for something else she did in the past or she wouldn't have been there.

/this

and apologist like Six will say "see! they cleared him!"
 

Darwin333

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That was clearly NOT "no reason". I couldn't hear what she said, but she clearly yelled something, then starting to run away. If the officer had already asked her to stop, he was justified in detaining her.

It's not clear from the video whether he even made a fist, so your claim of "sucker punch" doesn't hold up.

There's just not enough info here.

You can clearly see blood coming from her mouth as if she just got hit. Her reaction was that of getting punched and it looked like the officer actually punched her....

Doesn't matter what she said, unless it was something like "i've got a gun and I am going to kill you" there is no justification for that at all. As far as "detaining her", umm, she was a very small woman and he was a rather large man. He could have, oh I dunno, grabbed her arm maybe? Hell, tackling her (which would still have been way uncalled for and over the line) wouldn't have been as bad.
 

Jeffg010

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I just saw that vid and she did throw water at the very beginning not much but she did. Then the guy throws water and a lot of it and that is when the cop got pissed. He did not see who did it. Now the question is did he go over board I think he did but that lady is one stupid mother fucker.

In this day an age to act like that around cops is foolish. I guarantee you she going to go home after all this and bad mouth the cops and not even realize how she was part of the problem. I'll be honest I'm glad she got suckered punched.
 

Darwin333

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Then how was he supposed to stop her from running away? Should he have just pulled out his taser or his gun?

Reach right arm towards womans right arm using an upward motion away from body

Grab said arm with hand

Apply as much backward force as necessary to stop and detain the much smaller woman you now have by the arm, use left hand on womans left arm if necessary.

Put cuffs on.

What else can I help you figure out? Its not like the woman was getting away, the cop had covered almost all of the distance between them in just a few steps.
 

sigurros81

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Reach right arm towards womans right arm using an upward motion away from body

Grab said arm with hand

Apply as much backward force as necessary to stop and detain the much smaller woman you now have by the arm, use left hand on womans left arm if necessary.

Put cuffs on.

What else can I help you figure out? Its not like the woman was getting away, the cop had covered almost all of the distance between them in just a few steps.

Troll victim identified...
 

Darwin333

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I just saw that vid and she did throw water at the very beginning not much but she did. Then the guy throws water and a lot of it and that is when the cop got pissed. He did not see who did it. Now the question is did he go over board I think he did but that lady is one stupid mother fucker.

In this day an age to act like that around cops is foolish. I guarantee you she going to go home after all this and bad mouth the cops and not even realize how she was part of the problem. I'll be honest I'm glad she got suckered punched.

It always amazes me when people are happy that cops act and behave as if they are above the law. Eventually you could very well be on the wrong side of that.
 
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I just saw that vid and she did throw water at the very beginning not much but she did. Then the guy throws water and a lot of it and that is when the cop got pissed. He did not see who did it. Now the question is did he go over board I think he did but that lady is one stupid mother fucker.

In this day an age to act like that around cops is foolish. I guarantee you she going to go home after all this and bad mouth the cops and not even realize how she was part of the problem. I'll be honest I'm glad she got suckered punched.


If a cop can't control his anger over a little water being thrown around I wonder how he handles confrontational traffic stops, or people questioning why they're pulled over, or really ANY aspect of a cop's job.

Being a cop is stressful. They deal with the general public thus have people who are disrespectful, and it's part of their job to handle that professionally. If they can't handle that then they should be permanently removed from any position with power, permanently.
 
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If a cop can't control his anger over a little water being thrown around I wonder how he handles confrontational traffic stops, or people questioning why they're pulled over, or really ANY aspect of a cop's job.

Being a cop is stressful. They deal with the general public thus have people who are disrespectful, and it's part of their job to handle that professionally. If they can't handle that then they should be permanently removed from any position with power, permanently.

Agreed 100%. I'm sure it's a hell of a hard job, but you either have the temperament for it or you don't. If this had happened in the middle of a riot, or if this woman had herself hit the officer, I would be much more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. What I see is plainly assault and battery with no legal justification whatsoever.

I find it interesting that some people (usually people from entirely safe upbringings) are so quick to defend the actions of police, regardless of how inappropriate and/or illegal they might be, simply because they're police. Even if this woman was being annoying (which she probably was), the police can't beat people up just for being annoying.
 

Jeffg010

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If she controlled her stupidity none of this would of happened. The cop was at fault for what he did but she also needs to take blame too.
 

Number1

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NBC News has picked up the story.

This guy is going down in flame.

There is really no justifications for what he did.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is mentally deficient, a retard, a pervert, a cop apologist, a sico, a cop, a ding dong, a thug, an ATOTer, a moran, a dummy, a blonde, a gorilla. My list is by no mean all inclusive. I am sure there are other type of people who think this cop was doing the right thing. If you do and find your deficiency missing from my list, let us all know please.
 

Darwin333

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I can't watch the video atm, but my thought is that if the woman is not injured then this should be chaulked up to a life lesson AND and example of what not to do around cops.

I have changed your post below a bit to reflect reality. I won't put it in quotes so it isn't attributed to you.


Seriously, people are ridiculous with right and wrong applications of force. Remember when cops could hit civilians? Now they are supposed to take punches in the face and then 20 of their buddies seriously fuck you up while tazing you.(I'm not saying it's ok for cops to hit civilians without cause - please stay with me for another sentence before jumping the gun) This causes cops to think they can do whatever they want and there are no consequences. Do we really want our police officers applying this to you and your family, even though they have done no wrong, as well?


My point is you should respect cops, if you don't then you deserve to get punched in the face and arrested.
So you think that if someone does not respect a police officer the police officer should then break the law and physically assault said person even if that person has broken no law?


It doesn't make it right, but hopefully it teaches everyone a lesson.
It sure does, teaches law abiding citizens that it is quite literally "us versus them".

I wonder if half the people who comment on these things have ever dealt with a LEO before. I have never had an issue despite having done stupid things right in front of them.
I have many times as well and like you I have never had an issue. That most definitely does not mean that serious issues don't exist. My biggest issue with the police is that "blue line" bullshit where the 90% of cops that are good and decent people/cops protect the criminal assholes that give the rest of them a bad name.

Frankly, unless something else comes out on this particular case that is beyond anything I can rationally think of, the officer should be charged with a crime just like you or I had we punched the very same woman in the face for the very same (wrong or right) reason.
 

Darwin333

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If she controlled her stupidity none of this would of happened. The cop was at fault for what he did but she also needs to take blame too.

What stupidity was that? And what percentage of the blame does she deserve for "making" the cop punch her in the face? Why is it so different simply because he has a badge?
 

Darwin333

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I find it interesting that some people (usually people from entirely safe upbringings) are so quick to defend the actions of police, regardless of how inappropriate and/or illegal they might be, simply because they're police. Even if this woman was being annoying (which she probably was), the police can't beat people up just for being annoying.

That is exactly what it is. What those people don't realize is that when you basically give the police carte blanch power to assault anyone they want to, regardless of what is warranted or even if the person did any wrongdoing, they could very well one day be on the receiving end of that. Hell, I have seen people argue on the side of cops when they no knock the wrong house and shoot the beat the crap out of the innocent owner in front of his family. It is absurd what some police get away with today, especially when one considers that relatively few of the incidents are actually caught on film and posted online.

As was said, this didn't even look like an overly stressful situation (I understand that I can be very wrong but going with what we have) so its not a stretch to assume he could act in a similar manner during something as simple as a normal traffic stop.
 

sdifox

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That is exactly what it is. What those people don't realize is that when you basically give the police carte blanch power to assault anyone they want to, regardless of what is warranted or even if the person did any wrongdoing, they could very well one day be on the receiving end of that. Hell, I have seen people argue on the side of cops when they no knock the wrong house and shoot the beat the crap out of the innocent owner in front of his family. It is absurd what some police get away with today, especially when one considers that relatively few of the incidents are actually caught on film and posted online.

As was said, this didn't even look like an overly stressful situation (I understand that I can be very wrong but going with what we have) so its not a stretch to assume he could act in a similar manner during something as simple as a normal traffic stop.


I think traffic stops are actually the most dangerous aspects of LEO work.
 

Arkaign

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That is exactly what it is. What those people don't realize is that when you basically give the police carte blanch power to assault anyone they want to, regardless of what is warranted or even if the person did any wrongdoing, they could very well one day be on the receiving end of that. Hell, I have seen people argue on the side of cops when they no knock the wrong house and shoot the beat the crap out of the innocent owner in front of his family. It is absurd what some police get away with today, especially when one considers that relatively few of the incidents are actually caught on film and posted online.

As was said, this didn't even look like an overly stressful situation (I understand that I can be very wrong but going with what we have) so its not a stretch to assume he could act in a similar manner during something as simple as a normal traffic stop.

Truth. There's also something to be said for impartiality. I've defended cops on numerous occassions, and on the same token blasted them when I see that something is entirely wrong about their actions.

I also think that you're correct about the relatively few incidents caught on tape. For every tape of a cop doing something terrible, there are probably many dozens more events that are completely uncaptured. And similarly, hundreds of thousands of cops do good/great work daily and get no news coverage or tapes to show them doing good work. I think all police should be federally mandated to wear lapel/visor cameras w/microphone for their duty. It would serve the dual purpose of protecting good cops from BS allegations (pretty common I bet), and protecting innocent folks from crap cops.
 

umbrella39

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No. I'm saying it's not reasonable to conclude that ONLY from the video.

Except for the little fact that no cops were paying any attention to her during the very beginning so it's pretty clear the cop in white wasn't harboring any deep seeded resentments towards her that were stemming from some unseen part of the video before the clip. You can clearly see on the video that several cops reacted to being doused with water at the same time. One cop was convinced the closest person behind him was the culprit and cold cocked her.

EOT
 
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