YASECT: cop sucker punches woman for no reason

Vdubchaos

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No reason?

She was jumping around like a monkey before the incident. Can't tell what she is saying/waving at....but

It's not right what the cop did.

But I enjoyed that bitch getting smacked. Put her in her place QUICK.

(sorry for being so evil I guess)
 

sixone

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That was clearly NOT "no reason". I couldn't hear what she said, but she clearly yelled something, then starting to run away. If the officer had already asked her to stop, he was justified in detaining her.

It's not clear from the video whether he even made a fist, so your claim of "sucker punch" doesn't hold up.

There's just not enough info here.
 
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Unless there is a lot more context to justify this, she is in for a sweetheart of a lawsuit. I find it very difficult to imagine a scenario that would justify this use of force since she doesn't appear to have posed any danger to any of the officers or anyone else.
 
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That was clearly NOT "no reason". I couldn't hear what she said, but she clearly yelled something, then starting to run away. If the officer had already asked her to stop, he was justified in detaining her.

It's not clear from the video whether he even made a fist, so your claim of "sucker punch" doesn't hold up.

There's just not enough info here.

Yelling alone would not be a basis for detaining her, and the tape identifies no cause whatsoever for this use of force even if it did. I think "sucker punch" is an entirely accurate description.
 

Vdubchaos

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Yelling alone would not be a basis for detaining her, and the tape identifies no cause whatsoever for this use of force even if it did. I think "sucker punch" is an entirely accurate description.

It still looks like she needed it.

Whatever, department will get sued, cop will get fired....but we all still have a good laugh.

 

sixone

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Yelling alone would not be a basis for detaining her, and the tape identifies no cause whatsoever for this use of force even if it did. I think "sucker punch" is an entirely accurate description.

Depends on what she was yelling. If she was recommending any illegal act, that would be a basis for detention.
 
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A guy behind her flicked his water bottle and it went all over her and the cops. They turned around and saw her walking away and figured she was the one who had done it. Turns out, they were wrong. Whoops. Still, given that this is a SandEagle thread, and I'm sick of his constant bullshit about cops, I'm gonna side with the cops, because fuck it.
 

Vdubchaos

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Depends on what she was yelling. If she was recommending any illegal act, that would be a basis for detention.

American's still seem to think that they have "freedom of speech" and they can say ANYTHING and not get in trouble.

 
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Depends on what she was yelling. If she was recommending any illegal act, that would be a basis for detention.

There is no basis whatsoever on which to conclude that, and even if it were true, it wouldn't justify the use of force because she was not a danger to anyone.

I have successfully represented both plaintiffs and defendants in police civil rights cases, and I try to call them as I see them (thus, in the BART subway shooting a couple of years ago, I was adamant that while the involved officer had shot the suspect, it was accidental and not intentional).

I don't see how this officer's actions can realistically be defended.
 

sixone

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A guy behind her flicked his water bottle and it went all over her and the cops. They turned around and saw her walking away and figured she was the one who had done it. Turns out, they were wrong. Whoops. Still, given that this is a SandEagle thread, and I'm sick of his constant bullshit about cops, I'm gonna side with the cops, because fuck it.

Given what she was doing before the guy flicked his water bottle, I'd say it was a reasonable assumption.
 

sixone

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There is no basis whatsoever on which to conclude that, and even if it were true, it wouldn't justify the use of force because she was not a danger to anyone.

I have successfully represented both plaintiffs and defendants in police civil rights cases, and I try to call them as I see them (thus, in the BART subway shooting a couple of years ago, I was adamant that while the involved officer had shot the suspect, it was accidental and not intentional).

I don't see how this officer's actions can realistically be defended.

I didn't conclude anything. I said "DEPENDS" and "IF". I hope you don't miss those kinds of details when you're representing a paying client.
 

AzNKiD

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looks like some guy in black shirt threw water/liquid at the cops back around the 2 second mark on the left. The girl was yapping at them from the same direction, cops get hit with said liquid, turns around and see her, assume it was her, went to town on her.

sucks that she got the bad end of it, but throwing crap at cops is a big no no. sadly the cop is in trouble, but that jack ass in black caused all of this drama
 

Phokus

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Given what she was doing before the guy flicked his water bottle, I'd say it was a reasonable assumption.

No... it's not. And it's no justification for punching her.

I always chuckle at how ATOT complains about ATPN, but some of the dumbest opinions can be found by ATOT regulars.
 
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I didn't conclude anything. I said "DEPENDS" and "IF". I hope you don't miss those kinds of details when you're representing a paying client.

You're ignoring the fact that even if she were yelling "Kill the pigs!" or "Let's riot!" it wouldn't justify hitting her in the face when she posed no threat to anyone.
 

sdifox

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That was clearly NOT "no reason". I couldn't hear what she said, but she clearly yelled something, then starting to run away. If the officer had already asked her to stop, he was justified in detaining her.

It's not clear from the video whether he even made a fist, so your claim of "sucker punch" doesn't hold up.

There's just not enough info here.

You mean bleeding from the mouth after being hit does not constitute proof?
 

sdifox

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Proof of what, exactly?

cop punched her? Pretty sure you cannot punch a person in the face if you want to arrest them. Even when a person is resisting arrest, there is a measure of force that you can apply. This cop lost his cool and went way over the line.
 
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