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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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this transgender whatever burst into the school with two assault rifles, a handgun and extra ammo. I say remove assault weapons (hand guns too, but that comes later) and you weaken the ability to terrorize the nation. If you disagree, you ARE part of the problem.

You'll find there is no advantage in bringing a rifle to shoot up a classroom.
Helpless victims will still be helpless before handguns.

This does not end until the second amendment is ended.
 
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Pohemi

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2004
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This was in the comments on the tweet of that body cam video.



It was buried amongst all of the comments of, 'All the people who argued for defunding the police caused this shooting.'

Where the fuck do these people form their reality? FFS

Here's another related point:


 
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K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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These cops are heros the way they just keep pressing forward. Good on them.

Still UNREAL that this footage is from an elementary school. My son is in elementary school. I couldn't even imagine.


This is their job, what they guys in Uvalde failed to do. I have some issues with the veneration of the police generally especially post 9/11 not to mention that the entire reason this is necessary in the first place is that the country is basically addicted to firearms just like pain pills.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I hope more and more people realize where the battle lines have been drawn. These people are deplorable and irredeemable.

Perhaps over hundreds of years some can be reached, but if you wait for that, you'll lose all your freedoms to them first.

Know. The. Enemy.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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This is just unreal.

So I guess I was right when I said that 3 9 year old kids and 3 adults is an okay "price" to pay before a good guy with a gun comes in to "save the day" and there is nothing that can be done.


yea man, if you think we let something like uvald or parkland happen and not change anything, 3+3 is barely a blip.
 

Pohemi

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A pretty good summation of the problem: ...
Taken from the article:

'There are 120 guns for every 100 Americans, according to the Switzerland-based Small Arms Survey (SAS). No other nation has more civilian guns than people.

The Falkland Islands...is home to the world’s second-largest stash of civilian guns per capita. But with an estimated 62 guns per 100 people, its gun ownership rate is almost half that of the US...

...SAS researchers estimate that Americans own 393 million of the 857 million civilian guns available, which is around 46% of the world’s civilian gun cache....

...the US is one of only three countries in the world where bearing (or keeping) arms is a constitutional right....Yet the ownership rate in the other two – Guatemala and Mexico – is almost a tenth of the United States.'


I knew some of the raw stats in the article, but others were new to me like the % of global total of civilian guns. Like other gun stats for the US, it's simultaneously jaw-dropping and not at all surprising. It would have been, 40 years ago.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Exactly. These gun nutters clutch this 300 year old document. Feel free to walk around with your musket. You’re not entitled to these weapons of war

I don’t think that’s the best argument to make.

Best argument is that the 2nd should be reinterpreted back to how it originally was before 2008 when it was perverted to mean the exact opposite of its original intention. The current interpretation no longer allows the state to protect itself or its people.
 
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gothuevos

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yea man, if you think we let something like uvald or parkland happen and not change anything, 3+3 is barely a blip.

Seriously. People need to stop thinking "well, this time it'll be different." If Newtown and Parkland didn't move the needle, nothing will.

It is the risk we all take living in America in 2023. It is what it is.

So let's say we arm schools. What about grocery stores, theatres, concert venues, sporting events? How about we have an armed guard on every street corner in America? Just curious where the right thinks this line of thinking/solution takes us.

And I am 100% sure they will soon try to implement laws restricting what segments of the population can own guns or not. THAT kind of gun control, they will be all over it. Once you paint any segment of society as "evil" or simply as persona non grata - it is very easy to mobilize support to strip that segment of any rights they wish to. It's coming.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Ian Miles Cheong is leaning HARD into fascism. Tweeted a pic of the shooter with "They want you and your kids dead. Remember this."
Makes me think of Zor Prime's repugnant post early on in the thread.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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It used to be us kids practicing nuclear explosion drills at school, the one where you quckly crawl under your desk, close your eyes, tuck your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye kind of drill? My how times have changed.
My first grade experience.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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This is now the 4th trans mass shooter recently. Not saying there is pattern here or anything.

This was also a hate crime.
 
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kitkat22

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Feb 10, 2005
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This is now the 4th trans mass shooter recently. Not saying there is pattern here or anything.

This was also a hate crime.

Can you source that for me?

Nashville school shooter’s identity may make them an exceptionally rare perpetrator | Nashville | The Guardian

"The FBI has a slightly looser definition of what it calls “active shooter incidents” that focuses on individuals who engage in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area. Its database records a larger number of cases – 277 between 2000 and 2018 alone – but even here the proportion of perpetrators assigned female at birth is very low – 12, or just 4% of the total.

The number of shooters who are trans or gender nonconforming is even rarer, placing Hale in an almost unique class. The only other member of this category known in recent years is the 22-year-old shooter who killed five people in a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs last November who, according to defense lawyers, is non-binary"
 
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