YaTT: got chewed out by chinese restaurant owner for not tipping on 4$ meal

[Throckmorton]

I get a tip line when I go to a sandwich place. Does that mean tip?

I get a tip line when I go to a bar. Does that mean tip?


Some of you people need help if you determine what is mandatory tip based on a line and some text on a receipt

No but on this case you sat down and got served.

 

[SheHateMe]

I went to Buffalo Wild Wings a few days ago with a group of people for lunch. We only had an hour and 30 minutes to spare there. The place was not full, they had just opened. The girl who served us was only juggling two tables, the first table was just a group of two and us a group of 6. It was tuesday so we all just ordered .30 wings (which are just dropped in a fryer. 5 minutes tops to cook + saucing all of ours) and two of us go an entree salad (how long does it take to make a salad?). We waited over 40 minutes for her to come back with our food.

She did not check on us periodically to tell us what was going on. It was left up to interpretation. We didn't know what was going on. At the end, we waited another 20 minutes to get our checks (after we had asked about 10 minutes prior when she came to refill us). After that, another few minutes to get the receipts back when the POS computer was right next to us.


I did not leave her a tip because she didn't deserve it. I think she got $3 from the whole table....and that was just being nice.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

No but on this case you sat down and got served.

Precisely - when I get to sit on my fat ass and say "Hey dude, go get me some food and make it this way, and make it snappy. Also, dressing on the side - get me a drink - and bring me breadsticks"

I COMPLETELY agree.

But everytime I go to Freebirds for a burrito - or some other Sandwich shops - I get those receipts with a tip line. I feel no remorse putting $0.00 - because all that occured was people doing their job. Their job didn't change person to person. Grab bread. Slap mayo. Slap meat. Slap toppings. Put in a bag, fin. Yet they are trying to bring tipping into that shit too? The same goes for a bartender. If I tell a bartender to get me a beer, he reaches down 2 feet to put his hand in an icebucket and grab a bottle to hand me - is that worthy of any exquisite service for me - or is it just someone doing their job.

How about when you order from a restaurant with take-out? Do you tip then? You didn't sit down for service, they made the food, you paid for the food. No one served you. Yet some think thats worthy of tip? GTFO.

I don't get tipped for doing my everyday work-task, why should anyone else?

 

[gorcorps]

Cheers to OP for starting another ATOT tipping bitch-a-thon

I don't know if there's anything that gets this place riled up more

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I went to Buffalo Wild Wings a few days ago with a group of people for lunch. We only had an hour and 30 minutes to spare there. The place was not full, they had just opened. The girl who served us was only juggling two tables, the first table was just a group of two and us a group of 6. It was tuesday so we all just ordered .30 wings (which are just dropped in a fryer. 5 minutes tops to cook + saucing all of ours) and two of us go an entree salad (how long does it take to make a salad?). We waited over 40 minutes for her to come back with our food.

She did not check on us periodically to tell us what was going on. It was left up to interpretation. We didn't know what was going on. At the end, we waited another 20 minutes to get our checks (after we had asked about 10 minutes prior when she came to refill us). After that, another few minutes to get the receipts back when the POS computer was right next to us.


I did not leave her a tip because she didn't deserve it. I think she got $3 from the whole table....and that was just being nice.

Thank christ someone here has some sanity.

Tipping has gotten out of control. Just because you performed a service does not dictate you should receive EXTRA dollars.
1) cab rides
2) bell hops
3) waiters
4) bar tenders
5) hairdresser

Speaking of cab rides -I've been having fun with this: I always ask "Whats the total?" When I get out of the cab. In reality, it's just a test. When they lie and tell me a higher number than the one clearly displayed on the inside of the car? Bye-bye tip :biggrin: Happens way more often than you would think.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Can't say I'm surprised by the the members in this thread that claimed to have not tipped for petty reasons.

 

[krunchykrome]

was this your first time eating at restaurant?

 

[_Rick_]

If they can't afford to offer fried rice at $4, why do they pretend they can?
Write your fucking price on the menu, or get lost. What kind of stupid culture is that anyway?

Add a bloody (reasonable) service charge if you you can't factor it into the menu price, but this tip system is just broken. It should be up to the employer to make sure that their service staff perform properly, and not up to the customer to deal with the enforcement of service standards.

Seriously, this system is so retarded. And probably just a way of tax dodging, unless someone actually pays income tax on tips?

 

[alkemyst]

I get a tip line when I go to a sandwich place. Does that mean tip?

I get a tip line when I go to a bar. Does that mean tip?


Some of you people need help if you determine what is mandatory tip based on a line and some text on a receipt

What he was saying is if you see the tip line and tipping is appropriate then it shouldn't have slipped one's mind.

 

[alkemyst]

If they can't afford to offer fried rice at $4, why do they pretend they can?
Write your fucking price on the menu, or get lost. What kind of stupid culture is that anyway?

Add a bloody (reasonable) service charge if you you can't factor it into the menu price, but this tip system is just broken. It should be up to the employer to make sure that their service staff perform properly, and not up to the customer to deal with the enforcement of service standards.

Seriously, this system is so retarded. And probably just a way of tax dodging, unless someone actually pays income tax on tips?

Another clueless idiot. Good thing you are still eating off the kids menu and your baby daddy handles the tips at Denny's for family night.

Real wait staff pays taxes on tips. Some restaurants factor in that into their paychecks.

Unfortunately in order to fix this it would be hard for one restaurant to raise their staff's wages from less than $3/hr to something suitable to get the proper help. It's going to be a lot more per plate than a 15% hike.

 

[alkemyst]

I went to Buffalo Wild Wings a few days ago with a group of people for lunch. We only had an hour and 30 minutes to spare there. The place was not full, they had just opened. The girl who served us was only juggling two tables, the first table was just a group of two and us a group of 6. It was tuesday so we all just ordered .30 wings (which are just dropped in a fryer. 5 minutes tops to cook + saucing all of ours) and two of us go an entree salad (how long does it take to make a salad?). We waited over 40 minutes for her to come back with our food.

She did not check on us periodically to tell us what was going on. It was left up to interpretation. We didn't know what was going on. At the end, we waited another 20 minutes to get our checks (after we had asked about 10 minutes prior when she came to refill us). After that, another few minutes to get the receipts back when the POS computer was right next to us.


I did not leave her a tip because she didn't deserve it. I think she got $3 from the whole table....and that was just being nice.

Should hit up McDonalds for McNuggets if you think we will believe you were in an empty BWW on .30 wing day during lunch.

 

[SheHateMe]

Should hit up McDonalds for McNuggets if you think we will believe you were in an empty BWW on .30 wing day during lunch.

They opened at 11am. We got there at 11am. And I didn't say it was empty. I said it wasn't busy. Use your brain.

Can't say I'm surprised by the the members in this thread that claimed to have not tipped for petty reasons.

What would constitute as a "petty" reason for not tipping? Bad service better not be one of them.

 

[alkemyst]

They opened at 11am. We got there at 11am. And I didn't say it was empty. I said it wasn't busy. Use your brain.




What would constitute as a "petty" reason for not tipping? Bad service better not be one of them.

doubtful on cheap wing day. Almost on any day that place is overfilled at any location I have been too.

 

[alkemyst]

Tips are optional for parties under 8. If they were a fee that had to be paid, they would be added to the bill.

I always tip for good service, but rarely or never if all the person does is fill my water glass after its been sitting at the end of the table for more than a few minutes.

The include the tip on larger parties to prevent those that like to forget about taxes and the tip screwing their friends and the wait staff.

One is usually allowed to adjust it up if they want...it just makes for simple math.

Most adults will split a bill equally unless someone went way above and beyond the average. "Kids" like to figure out who ate what, who drank what and even get picky on things like "well I only had two nachos so I am not splitting that".

 

[SheHateMe]

doubtful on cheap wing day.

I guess you were secretly there, then. Doesn't matter if you think the place was empty or full, she was still only waiting on two tables and she was horrible.

 

[nixium]

1. It's a myth that servers get only paid $2 an hour if you don't tip. The restaurant owner makes up difference between $2 and the minimum wage - it's a legal requirement. Not getting tipped means you won't make more than the minimum wage. If someone tells you that by not tipping you're dooming someone else to a $2 an hour job they're FOS.

2. The tipping system should be like the rest of the world - employees of a restaurant should compensate their workers adequately and not rely on the customer to do it. Extra good service = extra money. When I'm out eating, I don't really give a fuck how nice the waiter/waitress is to me, and whether I'm asked a million times how everything is. If I want something, I'll just call them!

3. It's not fair to the staff that their wage depends on the largesse of others. You could do the best damn service, and if your customer is a d-bag, there goes your chances of a decent wage.

 

[alkemyst]

I guess you were secretly there, then. Doesn't matter if you think the place was empty or full, she was still only waiting on two tables and she was horrible.

I would not go to a Buffalo Wild Wings if I was expecting extraordinary service. It's doubtful she only had two tables as well.

Nice troll though.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I have like $100 in BWW gift cards, but every time I try to go, something bad happens and I end up at Old Chicago instead.

Since the GCs are obviously cursed, I'm probably going to give them to somebody I don't like.

 

[clamum]

I guess you were secretly there, then. Doesn't matter if you think the place was empty or full, she was still only waiting on two tables and she was horrible.

Yeah, well, your mom bro.

 

[alkemyst]

1. It's a myth that servers get only paid $2 an hour if you don't tip. The restaurant owner makes up difference between $2 and the minimum wage - it's a legal requirement. Not getting tipped means you won't make more than the minimum wage. If someone tells you that by not tipping you're dooming someone else to a $2 an hour job they're FOS.

The problem is fortunately enough people tip to make sure they at least hit minimum wage. If they don't sure they can ask the boss for the difference, good luck getting hours the next week.

What happens is for every good night they have, a couple jokers like yourself ruin it by sometimes even under paying like backing an included tip out as if taxes were applied to it.

2. The tipping system should be like the rest of the world - employees of a restaurant should compensate their workers adequately and not rely on the customer to do it. Extra good service = extra money. When I'm out eating, I don't really give a fuck how nice the waiter/waitress is to me, and whether I'm asked a million times how everything is. If I want something, I'll just call them!

Perhaps you should move to those other places and leave America?

I don't get the latter part of #2. In most places it would be hard (and rude) to shout out for your waiter.

3. It's not fair to the staff that their wage depends on the largesse of others. You could do the best damn service, and if your customer is a d-bag, there goes your chances of a decent wage.

Most wait staff don't see this as a problem but as their way to do better to earn more. That is the essence of our tipping system. The food cost is much much lower as the wages of the staff are more or less bore by the patrons.

The patrons that are unhappy will likely complain or just tip the standard 15% for basic service (or in today's idiotic society think that the 15% is the maximum tip allowed and basic service is more like 5%).

People mistakeningly think that without tips, food costs would be just 15% higher. They are very wrong.

 

[Puppies04]

in europe you can't even tip without cash.

Awesome statement considering it is absolute bullshit.

 

[JM Aggie08]

They opened at 11am. We got there at 11am. And I didn't say it was empty. I said it wasn't busy. Use your brain.




What would constitute as a "petty" reason for not tipping? Bad service better not be one of them.

Calm down, buttercup.

 

[slag]

It's mandatory because waiters get paid $2 an hour

No, tipping is never mandatory unless clearly stated in policy such as parties of 6-8 or more.

 

[SheHateMe]

Yeah, well, your mom bro.

Bro, do you even lift bro? I just sold my M3, and I still have nice cars left, bro.

Calm down, buttercup.

I'm calm, just wondering what your list of "petty" reasons include.

 

[alkemyst]

Bro, do you even lift bro? I just sold my M3, and I still have nice cars left, bro.

a 2010 Daewoo?