YaTT: got chewed out by chinese restaurant owner for not tipping on 4$ meal

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Praxis1452

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You didn't tip anything. I don't know what you expected. Maybe you expected them to just take it and not say anything like most places, but if it's some small chinese restaurant owned by a single family that should not be unexpected. You should tip atleast 10-15%, and if you can't then don't sit down. It's that simple. Really.
 

brianmanahan

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Sep 2, 2006
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I don't know what you expected. Maybe you expected them to just take it and not say anything like most places, but if it's some small chinese restaurant owned by a single family that should not be unexpected.

i certainly didnt expect to be screamed at for several minutes! the woman is known to be very cranky at times, people have had run ins with her before.

oh well, she wasted her time and lost my business.
 

DCal430

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i certainly didnt expect to be screamed at for several minutes! the woman is known to be very cranky at times, people have had run ins with her before.

oh well, she wasted her time and lost my business.

Then she lost nothing of value.
 

Slew Foot

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Sep 22, 2005
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The local Chinese place around here crosses out the tip line and puts in "0" in its spot when you pay by CC.
 

alkemyst

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The local Chinese place around here crosses out the tip line and puts in "0" in its spot when you pay by CC.

Some douchebag owners don't want to pay the credit surcharge on tips.

The server usually gets fucked because idiots don't realize that the tip is still expected.

Yes, tips are EXPECTED for service; it's not a gift.
 

crashtech

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Jan 4, 2013
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The moral of this thread is that some people just don't get it, and never will. I suppose those like the OP just make the rest of us look that much better in comparison. So thanks, OP. I bet if you are a regular anywhere, you've already unwittingly consumed untold amounts of bodily fluids. If I was a stiff like you, I'd never eat in the same place twice.
 

DCal430

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I will say this 90%+ of the Chinese places here the owner pockets and keeps the tips, and pays the stuff under the table.
 

dirtrat

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I NEVER tip just because they serve me. I tip based on the service I get and the quality of the food I am served. I never reward people based on bad service or food. Since when is a tip mandatory based solely on going to a restaurant? Also on take out orders I never tip. No service then no tip!
 

slag

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Tips are optional for parties under 8. If they were a fee that had to be paid, they would be added to the bill.

I always tip for good service, but rarely or never if all the person does is fill my water glass after its been sitting at the end of the table for more than a few minutes.
 

jaqie

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I tip based on service of the person being tipped.

There have been times I tip ~12-23 cents, other times I have paid $20... for example on a $20 meal in a pizza place when I was in college and that's all the money I had left for a couple weeks. There are other times I tip nothing.

It all depends on how the people serving me act.

I started giving sub $1 tips on papa johns delivery in north carolina when I lived there like 8 years ago when every single delivery driver was incredibly insulting and rude, where beforehand it was always $5 or more.

Give crappy service? get crappy tip. give no service? get no tip. give terrible service? get no tip. give good service? get good tip. give awesome service? get all the tip I can give. It's that simple with me and always has been.

And yes, I used to be delivery for pizza hut back when I was 20 or so. I was on the other side, and never treated someone badly for no or tiny tip.
 

sunzt

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WTF is wrong with OP? If all you're doing is eating flied lice and finishing in 10 minutes why not just order take out and not worry about the whole tipping fiasco?

If you sit down and are waited on then you should tip if the service is not bad.
 

yuchai

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Aug 24, 2004
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Tipping system sucks, but as things current stand, you should have tipped.

You were not helping things out by using the card on a $4 transaction. The way they see it, they lost money on the transaction fees AND didn't get a tip to make up for it.
 
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That is why people who tip by percentage are morons. A server shouldn't get paid less just because I wanted a grilled chicken instead of a fried chicken. With me, they get paid a set amount per person at the table (they even get a tip for someone who gets just water).

The set dollar amount is a function of the restaurant type, of course. A $5 per person tip is ok at a typical restaurant, but not at a high end one.

Okay detective "THIS IS HOW YOU TIP!!!"

If you don't tip based on the ticket cost, why is it when you go to an expensive restaurant where the bill amounts to $200+ (Expensive steaks, usually), why do you tip on percentage then? Then it's ok? Why don't you toss in an extra $20 eh?

Hypocrites.

Tip is based on what you feel like it. Anyone who ever gives a muff, a hiss, or a loud speech like the OPs case should be PUNCHED in the jaw to the point of breaking bones. It's called a tip for a reason. My tip to the chinese place? Don't expect tips - and maybe you just might get some tips.

(mind you, this comes from someone that typically does your above average tip - I never cheap out unless the waiter giving the service cheaps out).
 

Narse

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OP you are a cheap asshole as mentioned earlier in this thread. Should have left a couple bucks on the card for the tip.
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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You're an idiot. If the receipt has a line for tip how did you not think of it? And it should be about $1. Sorry but tipping isn't optional in this country. I wish it didn't exist but we can't change it
 
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You're an idiot. If the receipt has a line for tip how did you not think of it? And it should be about $1. Sorry but tipping isn't optional in this country. I wish it didn't exist but we can't change it

I get a tip line when I go to a sandwich place. Does that mean tip?

I get a tip line when I go to a bar. Does that mean tip?


Some of you people need help if you determine what is mandatory tip based on a line and some text on a receipt
 

clamum

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Feb 13, 2003
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I have a feeling the OP is trolling, but if for some magical reason he isn't, dude... what not leave a nice pome for them? I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

The tipping process is or at least should be a way to give a token of appreciation rather than be an obligation. Because if it is a universal obligation and you are pressured to give a tip all time, then it might as well be part of the cost of the meal or a service charge rather than something called a "tip".

I don't buy the argument that a tip should always be given and that it should be a smaller amount or percentage for normal service and higher for excellent service. The wait staff should be paid a reasonable wage and tips should entirely be an extra "thank you" gesture from the customers who freely choose to give them.

I don't think it's an argument about cheapness, as I have no problem giving a good tip, but I don't think it should be demanded in every scenario. If I were going to be chewed out by the owner like the OP was for not giving a tip, that's certainly the kind of establishment I would want to avoid in the future. I have respect for anyone in the service industry, but no one should be treated like a immoral vagrant for not leaving a tip. That's just sad and uncalled for, and I don't see how anyone can side with the owner for lecturing a customer.
Yes this.
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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I NEVER tip just because they serve me. I tip based on the service I get and the quality of the food I am served. I never reward people based on bad service or food. Since when is a tip mandatory based solely on going to a restaurant? Also on take out orders I never tip. No service then no tip!

It's mandatory because waiters get paid $2 an hour
 
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