Ye Shiwen(girl) sets 400m medley record. "Disturbing" says U.S. coach.

Page 13 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
13,312
1
0
lol, if your family knows about discus, then it's common knowledge that the actual discus that the men and women throw is quite a bit different.

I did know that, but that wasn't what was asked now was it? We were asking for records that are similar or greater. Women also have less muscles mass and are slower swimmers as a result, so I fail to see what the big deal is in their discus size being different in this comparison. Dr Pizza I knew full well it was a different size, I just didn't think it mattered seeing as we're a sexually dimorphic species for the most part and men are bigger faster and stronger than women on average. I mean we were talking about a little iddy biddy 17 year old Chinese girl against a full grown American man. I really don't think you guys attacking me about the size different is warranted. I just chose to omit it as I saw it irrelevant.
 
Last edited:

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
17,458
82
86
I did know that, but that wasn't what was asked now was it? We were asking for records that are similar or greater. Women also have less muscles mass and are slower swimmers as a result, so I fail to see what the big deal is in their discus size being different in this comparison.

Holy shit, you're a bigger idiot than I thought was possible. Most people would shut up and go away when they're owned. No, not you.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
17,458
82
86
I did know that, but that wasn't what was asked now was it? We were asking for records that are similar or greater. Women also have less muscles mass and are slower swimmers as a result, so I fail to see what the big deal is in their discus size being different in this comparison. Dr Pizza I knew full well it was a different size, I just didn't think it mattered seeing as we're a sexually dimorphic species for the most part and men are bigger faster and stronger than women on average. I mean we were talking about a little iddy biddy 17 year old Chinese girl against a full grown American man. I really don't think you guys attacking me about the size different is warranted. I just chose to omit it as I saw it irrelevant.

Quoted...
 

MontyAC

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2004
4,112
1
81
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ol...2012-Olympics-after-match-fixing-scandal.html



YUP. Stay classy China. Let's hear how this one gets explained away.

Based on the tournament rules, round robin, teams want to not play the best team until the final round. So, there is manipulation by all the top teams to get a better draw. Note that 1 Chinese team was expelled, but then there were 2 South Korea teams and 1 Indonesia team expelled. So, they all do it to position for the medal round.

Turn off the China hate there.
 

skagen5555

Member
May 28, 2007
51
0
0
I did know that, but that wasn't what was asked now was it? We were asking for records that are similar or greater. Women also have less muscles mass and are slower swimmers as a result, so I fail to see what the big deal is in their discus size being different in this comparison. Dr Pizza I knew full well it was a different size, I just didn't think it mattered seeing as we're a sexually dimorphic species for the most part and men are bigger faster and stronger than women on average. I mean we were talking about a little iddy biddy 17 year old Chinese girl against a full grown American man. I really don't think you guys attacking me about the size different is warranted. I just chose to omit it as I saw it irrelevant.

How did you not think it was relevant?
that's like claiming the Women's 100m freestyle is faster than the Men's 200m cause they're both "freestyle swimming". Double the length... shouldn't matter right?

The whole basis of the records was the prove women aren't as strong as men... You brought up that record to "prove" women could exceed men "in the same sport" which isn't true.
 
Last edited:

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
13,312
1
0
Holy shit, you're a bigger idiot than I thought was possible. Most people would shut up and go away when they're owned. No, not you.

I didn't get owned, I legitimately omitted it because I just didn't think it mattered. Unless you want to throw Ye Shiwen into Lochtes body and see how she performs? Oh wait that's not possible. Same sport, you guys are just being difficult.


How did you not think it was relevant?
that's like claiming the Women's 100m freestyle is faster than the Men's 200m cause they're both "freestyle swimming". Double the length... shouldn't matter right?

The whole basis of the records was the prove women aren't as strong as men... You brought up that record to "prove" women could exceed men "in the same sport" which isn't true.
There's a reason men and women don't compete against each other and it has a lot to do with genetics. We're comparing 100m to 100m here, the only difference is the tool used. The body. Ye has a much smaller and weaker body than Lochte. So the comparison was ok in my opinion and fair to omit. Unless you're an idiot who thinks there's no difference between men and women.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
17,458
82
86
I didn't get owned, I legitimately omitted it because I just didn't think it mattered. Unless you want to throw Ye Shiwen into Lochtes body and see how she performs? Oh wait that's not possible. Same sport, you guys are just being difficult.



There's a reason men and women don't compete against each other and it has a lot to do with genetics. We're comparing 100m to 100m here, the only difference is the tool used. The body. Ye has a much smaller and weaker body than Lochte. So the comparison was ok in my opinion and fair to omit. Unless you're an idiot who thinks there's no difference between men and women.

The more you type, the bigger of an idiot you become. I love it.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
13,312
1
0
SSSnail, whatever. I've already explained why I omitted it, I really don't care if you guys believe me or not.
 

Soundmanred

Lifer
Oct 26, 2006
10,780
6
81
Too bad that anyone know USA has biggest debt in the world and the creditor is China. You can use your big words but I worry about your kid as everyone know how USA economy is and it doesnt look like it will rebound in the next few decades. so, use as much big words as you can now... I just feel sad for you.

You've been in Canada for 18 YEARS and still talk/type like this?
You sound more like a 16 year old Chinese girl.
Wait a minute...hmm...
 

skagen5555

Member
May 28, 2007
51
0
0
I didn't get owned, I legitimately omitted it because I just didn't think it mattered. Unless you want to throw Ye Shiwen into Lochtes body and see how she performs? Oh wait that's not possible. Same sport, you guys are just being difficult.



There's a reason men and women don't compete against each other and it has a lot to do with genetics. We're comparing 100m to 100m here, the only difference is the tool used. The body. Ye has a much smaller and weaker body than Lochte. So the comparison was ok in my opinion and fair to omit. Unless you're an idiot who thinks there's no difference between men and women.


That's the whole point... SSSnail pretty much said women CAN"T compare with men in terms of strength etc... and he tossed the challenge of proving otherwise using World Records in Olympic Events.

By you trying to find one and posting it, you (intentionally or not) lead people to believe that you hold the opinion that some women are better at men at some events when in actuality, that's not true.

Then now you're admitting that Women are worst than men in strength etc...

On a side note, the fact that you admit that women are weaker, doesn't that make it all the more suspicious that Ye was able to beat Lochte for that stretch?
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
13,312
1
0
That's the whole point... SSSnail pretty much said women CAN"T compare with men in terms of strength etc... and he tossed the challenge of proving otherwise using World Records in Olympic Events.

By you trying to find one and posting it, you (intentionally or not) lead people to believe that you hold the opinion that some women are better at men at some events when in actuality, that's not true.

Then now you're admitting that Women are worst than men in strength etc...

On a side note, the fact that you admit that women are weaker, doesn't that make it all the more suspicious that Ye was able to beat Lochte for that stretch?
Actually he never said in terms of strength. He said this. I proved it right and I omitted the fact about the different discus sizes because I didn't feel it mattered. Records are records are they not?
Go find a physical Olympic event where the women's records come close to the men's records. I'm waiting.



I'll give you the entire history of the recorded Olympics. Go go.


Come on man, just say you omitted a very important detail and we can move on. It's ok to be wrong.
I omitted it because 1. I didn't find it necessary and 2. it fit the comparison. Women don't swim against men because of sexual dimorphism, genetics. Same reason they don't compete against men in discus. Also why they use a smaller discus. Not to mention the comparison is even better here because Ye is smaller and weaker than Lochte, her body will always be smaller and weaker than Lochte, yet she was able to pull similar times in a single Leg. Lochte was faster overall, similar to the men having similar distances to the women, while using a bigger discus.

I really don't understand why that's hard to get why I omitted it. If you guys think it's important whatever, but it definitely was not a requirement to answer SSSnail's request.

I'd also like to add how little I've thought of this since posting it, I forgot it fucking existed since posting it. I only remembered because I got home this morning and a tab was opened up to it.
 
Last edited:

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
3,076
3
81
what the fuck?


ok let me google that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China




how much did the commies pay you to post that bullshit?

..... not sure you're trying to be intentionally obtuse here...

The economic system in china is a command economy. The political system is more of a single party socialist republic ruled by the "communist" party, which is in name only. It's like saying the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan (which ruled for many decades) was just a bunch of liberals, except that it was the name for the conservative party.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_type_of_government_does_China_have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan)
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
13,312
1
0
..... not sure you're trying to be intentionally obtuse here...

The economic system in china is a command economy. The political system is more of a single party socialist republic ruled by the "communist" party, which is in name only. It's like saying the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan (which ruled for many decades) was just a bunch of liberals, except that it was the name for the conservative party.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_type_of_government_does_China_have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan)

To many people confuse difference in culture as "ZOMG COMMUNISM" lol
 

Fausto

Elite Member
Nov 29, 2000
26,521
2
0
I'm not sure which is better; the Official Party Line or all the splatter damage in this thread.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
36,410
616
126
..... not sure you're trying to be intentionally obtuse here...

The economic system in china is a command economy. The political system is more of a single party socialist republic ruled by the "communist" party, which is in name only. It's like saying the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan (which ruled for many decades) was just a bunch of liberals, except that it was the name for the conservative party.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_type_of_government_does_China_have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan)


wow, so how much did the commies in china pay you to post this?? opps i meant the socialist party that calls themselves the communist party in name only.

your post is a joke.
 

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
3,076
3
81
wow, so how much did the commies in china pay you to post this?? opps i meant the socialist party that calls themselves the communist party in name only.

your post is a joke.

lol. Sorry that facts don't agree with your dream world. I pity you.

And I already told you before I get 0.2 yuan per post and extra when I respond to yours duh!
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |