Yes, this is Coheed's new single. No, this isn't like the Co&Ca the haters know.

destrekor

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http://www.coheedandcambria.com/us/yotbr

Download up on Zune, iTunes, and Amazon.

Hard to exactly categorize this song. Progressive is heavily featured. Harder rock, epic rock, metal.

Coheed in a form unlike anything before, yet still retaining a certain Co&Ca flair.

But quite simply, for those who know him:

Chris Pennie.

His membership in the band is now showing the potential the band's music can now reach.

For those who are actually interested in the band, this is from their album that drops in April, Year of the Black Rainbow. Last album in the saga, and prequel to everything.

Chris Pennie.
He's here.

Middle portion of the song is epic. And this is a short song. I await their longer songs as those tend to be their big rockers and feature the most prog elements.

All you haters. Flame on. You old geezers, you metal heads, you "Dream Theater is the only prog band I recognize" folks (excellent band and yes, their prog style outshines Coheed's prog if that's all you care about), you "classic rock is the only form of rock" folks... commence with the hate.

I don't care. Been a big fan of Pennie, and a big fan of Coheed. Always recognized their enjoyment of going for different influence styles, and their last album, while having some good music, dropped the ball on their older form due to Taylor Hawkins. I will always blame him.
But back to Pennie. This is what he was destined for.

While this is but a short taste of their upcoming album, hearing Pennie give a tease of what he adds to the band now, and Coheed obviously returning to their prog stylings with flair, I think it's safe to expect there will be more of that to come in the next album.
 

allthatisman

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Cookie cutter rock IMO... at least that song. I liked their older stuff much more, but I say that with a grain of salt. 4/10
 

Hyperlite

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can't....stand....voice....

and i'm no music snob, just not something i can stand to listen to.


*backs out of thread slowly*
 

destrekor

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can't....stand....voice....

and i'm no music snob, just not something i can stand to listen to.


*backs out of thread slowly*

That's a valid reason. Much the same many people cannot listen to Rush or Dream Theater as far as higher vocals go, and a general reason why some bands with great sound will overall sound terrible to some people just because the style of vocals.

And as an aside...

I'm not saying this song above means Coheed and Cambria will ultimately sound far different than ever before, they have their songs here and there that seem to stand out among the others on every album.

Nor do I think this is their greatest song ever. Quite simply, too short to be Coheed's greatest song. But I enjoy it already, after only 2 listens, more than quite a few on each of their previous albums.

I think it is a taste of things to come though, so I am excited to see Coheed branch out some.
Who knows, this song could end up being the one I like the least on their new album.
 

brblx

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i like it. but it's certainly not progressive. making songs that aren't little three minute ditties doesn't automatically make it prog.

i'm actually getting a strong glassjaw vibe from it. the singer sounds more and more like daryl palumbo as time goes on.
 

Squisher

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Sounds a little like Dio's lesser solo stuff minus Dio's voice, that is.


It's listenable.

<---Old fart
 

destrekor

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i like it. but it's certainly not progressive. making songs that aren't little three minute ditties doesn't automatically make it prog.

i'm actually getting a strong glassjaw vibe from it. the singer sounds more and more like daryl palumbo as time goes on.

It's not a progressive song, but they are going back to less straight timing signatures, from what my feeble music mind can tell.

Honestly never listened to Glassjaw. Should I?
But the vocal style in The Broken definitely seems influenced from contemporary hard rock. I personally sense a familiarity to Matt "M.Shadow" Sanders (Avenged Sevenfold), at least on their recent self titled album.

And no, I'm not implying songs longer than 3 minutes are prog. But that has been Coheed's standard, their longest songs tend to be their biggest. And while not always featuring progressive timings (as I refer to it) in their longer tracks, they tend to always be their better songs. At least, while I like quite a few of their 4 minute songs, their 7, 8, 9 minute tracks have incorporated a better range.

The Willing Well series (Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV: Vol1); title track on In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth:3, as well as The Light & The Glass (I love the end of that song), and of course 21:13; Neverender, Time Consumer, and Delirium Trigger (Second Stage Turbine Blade), when performed live with Pennie, are very enjoyable.
 

brblx

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i don't really thing odd and/or rapidly changing time signatures make something prog, they just tend to occur in prog music.

glassjaw is good stuff. i would give everything you wanted to know about silence and worship and tribute a listen. the latter is a little less hardcore and more easy to get into. i dunno if they broke up or what, but they haven't put out an album in years.
 

sandorski

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Too busy. Song sounds like it's from the 5th Dimension aka going in multiple directions.
 

deadlyapp

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I've loved them for a long time. Not sure how I feel about this new song...Seems like it's pushing towards more of the other mainstream that is out there. I've always liked coheed because they are so much different than anything else, especially because of the vocals. I've seen them in concert once, I'll probably try to see them again this summer if they tour for this new album.
 

Kadarin

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Do. Not. Like.

In my opinion: The singer is really trying way too hard, and the music is an uninspired and not really cohesive mess of guitar and drums that tries and fails to imitate actual rock music.
 

biggestmuff

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There's really nothing progressive about this on first listen. The song is in 4/4 and has a fairly normal structure.

i don't really thing odd and/or rapidly changing time signatures make something prog, they just tend to occur in prog music.

glassjaw is good stuff. i would give everything you wanted to know about silence and worship and tribute a listen. the latter is a little less hardcore and more easy to get into. i dunno if they broke up or what, but they haven't put out an album in years.

That's pretty much a main characteristic of prog rock/metal; odd time signatures and a song structure outside of the typical ABABCAB.
 

brblx

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right, but being a characteristic of prog is not the same as being a determiner of a music's genre.

and lol @ people calling this song an incoherent mess. surprisingly, music that isn't pop sometimes has more than one instrument playing at once. go listen to the jonas brothers and try not to bother talking about actual music.
 

sandorski

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right, but being a characteristic of prog is not the same as being a determiner of a music's genre.

and lol @ people calling this song an incoherent mess. surprisingly, music that isn't pop sometimes has more than one instrument playing at once. go listen to the jonas brothers and try not to bother talking about actual music.

I don't listen to pop music and this song is very incoherent and a mess. It's impossible to follow anything. Vocals and a guitar track washes it out. A Guitar track and another Guitar track and/or Vocals washes it out. At times the Instruments sound like they've gone Off Key. Just a huge mess.

It almost sounds like something you'd get if you took all Tracks off an Album and mashed them together into 1 Track.
 

eits

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It's not a progressive song, but they are going back to less straight timing signatures, from what my feeble music mind can tell.

Honestly never listened to Glassjaw. Should I?
But the vocal style in The Broken definitely seems influenced from contemporary hard rock. I personally sense a familiarity to Matt "M.Shadow" Sanders (Avenged Sevenfold), at least on their recent self titled album.

And no, I'm not implying songs longer than 3 minutes are prog. But that has been Coheed's standard, their longest songs tend to be their biggest. And while not always featuring progressive timings (as I refer to it) in their longer tracks, they tend to always be their better songs. At least, while I like quite a few of their 4 minute songs, their 7, 8, 9 minute tracks have incorporated a better range.

The Willing Well series (Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV: Vol1); title track on In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth:3, as well as The Light & The Glass (I love the end of that song), and of course 21:13; Neverender, Time Consumer, and Delirium Trigger (Second Stage Turbine Blade), when performed live with Pennie, are very enjoyable.

glassjaw ftw. definitely listen to a glassjaw album from beginning to end. don't just listen to songs... you won't get it and will fail to enjoy it's brilliance.

i recommend the 'worship and tribute' album
 

brblx

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I don't listen to pop music and this song is very incoherent and a mess. It's impossible to follow anything. Vocals and a guitar track washes it out. A Guitar track and another Guitar track and/or Vocals washes it out. At times the Instruments sound like they've gone Off Key. Just a huge mess.

It almost sounds like something you'd get if you took all Tracks off an Album and mashed them together into 1 Track.

it's actually pretty well executed. just because the drummer actually, uh, drums, and there are two guitars playing lead (sort of) does not make it sound like 'every track from an album mashed together.'

if you don't listen to pop, then you either listen to like, ambient techno or really shitty 'classic' rock with a drum beat and guitar track that a three year old could follow (and the obligatory one note bass part).
 

eits

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Yep, still hate the lead singers voice. I'll pass.

listen their first album beginning to end. i used to hate the claudio's voice too... but then i was forced to listen an entire album from beginning to end and i couldn't believe wtf i was bitching about in the first place.
 

eits

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I don't listen to pop music and this song is very incoherent and a mess. It's impossible to follow anything. Vocals and a guitar track washes it out. A Guitar track and another Guitar track and/or Vocals washes it out. At times the Instruments sound like they've gone Off Key. Just a huge mess.

It almost sounds like something you'd get if you took all Tracks off an Album and mashed them together into 1 Track.

you, sir, have no goddamn clue what you're talking about.
 

eits

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There's really nothing progressive about this on first listen. The song is in 4/4 and has a fairly normal structure.



That's pretty much a main characteristic of prog rock/metal; odd time signatures and a song structure outside of the typical ABABCAB.

check out dillinger escape plan if you wanna hear some mathcore (crazy time signatures).

p.s. it was chris pennie's old band

p.s.s. a few of my closest friends back home jam with chris pennie all the time. one of them actually used to get lessons from him a good few years ago. he'd drive up to new jersey every weekend for the lesson. he's now the drummer of deleted scenes (all of the members are friends of mine from high school).
 
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