Yes, Vista IS CRAP...

[Arkaign]

To the OP.

Solution : Dual-Boot with XP, use it for 99% of your daily computing. When Alan Wake comes out, boot up to it and use it when you need to.

Microsoft will never allow DX10 on XP, it would be admitting defeat, and their stock price would suffer for it.

Vista isn't the worst OS I've ever used, but I am no fan whatsoever. I've had two installations de-activate themselves with no hardware changes, and had to call and waste my time re-activating, because the online option wouldn't go through. Also some bizarre issues with folder views not wanting to stick.

There are also zero features in Vista that I care to use at this point. I have my copies only because at some point we're going to be running 8, 16, and 32+ gb of ram, 64-bit apps will be the norm, and driver support for XP will dwindle away. Did I mention DX10? Yeah it sucks balls now, but in 12-18 months, we'll have a couple new gens of cards coming through, and even the midrange should be adequate to play the upcoming DX10-optimized titles. And no doubt, many of the upcoming games will end up DX10-only (forget the DX10-only garbage of recent times).

Cliffs;

Your complaint is registered and has been echoed 10,000,000 times already from other users/customers/etc
The lack of info from you in the OP basically makes it impossible to assist in any way, besides :
You need to dual-boot XP and come back to Vista when you *need* to.

 

[Griffinhart]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: daveshel
Wow, I'm surprised at all the M$ cheerleading in this thread. I'm running Vista (business) on a 4600+ Dual Core with 4GB and am damn glad I'm dual booting with XP. I'm an Action Pack subscriber and I'm all for learning the new operating systems when they come out, but this one appears to me to be bloatware without any real benefit coming from all the additional overhead. I'm part of a team that manages 240 servers and we will be very reluctant to be early adopters of Server 2008 based on what we see with Vista - hoping the gold version will remove more Vista-isms that are still in RC2 (like Server 2003 had less XP-isms by the time it went gold).

I sensed the same thing when I started reading this thread. My friend is a .net developer so I guess I can see where it's all coming from since I can't convince him Java is a good platform.

My view on OS's is they should be a this as possible. OS's should be the primer to every other application out there and nothing should be included with it except the interface. But it's in Microsoft's best interest to include everything they can with their monopolistic operating system so users will be forever tied to windows. But unfortunately the vast majority of people want what's easy and convenient and because of Windows prominence in the world today, it doesn't look like things are going to change soon.

I was going to stay out of Yet Another Vista Troll and Run Thread, but Chosonman's post was just too ridiculous to pass up (I stopped reading dave's as soon as the old dollar sign made an appearance).

"Monopolistic OS," that's a new one. Is OS X monopolistic for including applications with its install? What about Ubuntu? Any other modern OS for that matter?

I always get a chuckle out of people crying MS cheerleading while using terms like "Monopolistic OS." Same coin different side.

 

[Chosonman]

Originally posted by: daveshel
I was going to stay out of Yet Another Vista Troll and Run Thread, but Chosonman's post was just too ridiculous to pass up (I stopped reading dave's as soon as the old dollar sign made an appearance).

"Monopolistic OS," that's a new one. Is OS X monopolistic for including applications with its install? What about Ubuntu? Any other modern OS for that matter?

Sorry didn't mean to bash your employer. Please don't flame me.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: daveshel
I was going to stay out of Yet Another Vista Troll and Run Thread, but Chosonman's post was just too ridiculous to pass up (I stopped reading dave's as soon as the old dollar sign made an appearance).

"Monopolistic OS," that's a new one. Is OS X monopolistic for including applications with its install? What about Ubuntu? Any other modern OS for that matter?

Sorry didn't mean to bash your employer. Please don't flame me.

I wish I worked at MS, I heard they get good bennies. :laugh:

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: daveshel
Wow, I'm surprised at all the M$ cheerleading in this thread...

I am too!

I've been 'pushing' Vista since last May - one of M$ Vista's biggest cheerleaders, here and elsewhere.

For months, I was treated like a red-headed stepchild!

When I started posting in this OS forum, a couple of weeks ago, I *assumed* the 'Lifers' were gonna be humping my leg, day n' night, but I've been pleasantly surprised - to say the least!

It seems to be the stupid, lazy malcontents and misinformed n00bs that have a problem with Vista in this forum...

The elders/priests in the OS area have already been assimilated, making life much easier for me!

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: VinDSL

Originally posted by: daveshel
Wow, I'm surprised at all the M$ cheerleading in this thread...

I am too!

I've been 'pushing' Vista since last May - one of M$ Vista's biggest cheerleaders, here and elsewhere.

For months, I was treated like a red-headed stepchild!

When I started posting in this OS forum, a couple of weeks ago, I *assumed* the 'Lifers' were gonna be humping my leg, day n' night, but I've been pleasantly surprised - to say the least!

It seems to be the stupid, lazy malcontents and misinformed n00bs that have a problem with Vista in this forum...

The elders/priests in the OS area have already been assimilated, making life much easier for me!

lol

Yeah, because Vista runs perfectly every time Only malcontents and n00bs ever have problems with an OS.

Win!