Apopka, FL Six Apopka police officers are under investigation after video was posted online showing cops roughing up and berating two men who were simply waiting for a ride to work.
If the police can stereotype us, we can stereotype them. I treat leos just as I would an unreasonably wild animal looking for trouble and make absolutely no contact.
And you should also try to be absolutely upstanding in their presence without any instances of even minor or petty infractions. Here's what could happen if you jaywalk for example....
RAW: Police beat, detain teenager for jaywalking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls-868BO1dc
This is a tough one.
First off, the guys thought they weren't doing anything wrong, but they were on private property outside a closed business. As far as they know the owners of the property called the police to report suspicious activity of people outside their business after hours at night or it could have been an automatic thing.
I get that the guys thought they were breaking no laws and were infact being harmless enough, but they were being aggressive back to the officer conducting her investigation.
The female officer was trying to ascertain what had happened and occurred and had called her supervisor as backup. I have zero problems with the actions of the female officer in the video. She didn't rough anyone up, and those two darker skinned individuals at night look "black" in a dark area. It is a legitimate Terry stop and they were acting like self righteous ass hats for the camera. More the second guy not holding the camera was a bit more confrontational.
Had the two guys stated something like, "Sorry we were waiting here for a ride and didn't realize it was private property is it OK if we move somewhere else to wait for our ride?" then I doubted the whole ordeal would have ever had happened. Instead they thought they were right and not on private property and thus not breaking any crimes.
I have a tough time sympathizing here with the individuals in this video compared to others I've seen recently. However, this is why I state this is tough, the actions of those police officers were very unprofessional even if technically not illegal from what I saw. While they had the right to do what they did, that doesn't mean they should have. It was clear that the officers that arrived later after the female let their emotions dictate their actions. But the OP is wrong. The female cop here didn't do anything at all either unprofessional or illegal. Needs to fix the title.
The cops never said the property owners called in these guys for trespassing. The cops answer to why they were being harassed is they were trespassing. What? Trespassing isnt a default criminal act for walking on private property. The cops were out of line. And unsurprisingly when backup arrived they got violent.
The definition of trespassing is entering or remaining on someone′s property without permission. You′ve probably seen these signs like “Private Property”, “Do Not Enter” and “No Trespassing” on vacant lots, wooded areas, abandoned houses or near factories. If there′s a sign posted (whether you see it or not), or if you′ve been told by the owner not to be on the property, this is considered adequate notice. Disregarding these rules can result in a charge of trespass, which is a misdemeanor.
The trespassing, if any, may be the result of a cop either pushing or moving them off of public property which is not trespassing!
The trespassing, if any, may be the result of a cop either pushing or moving them off of public property which is not trespassing!
The catch 22 example is not going to fly! Sitting on a curb is on public property whether their posteriors in on a public sidewalk or not. The problem is we don't have a video from the beginning so we don't know for sure unless one of the initial officers confirms they were on the curb. This is from the first link:
"The two men said they were simply sitting on a curb outside of a cellphone store after business hours, waiting for a ride, when approached by the overly aggressive officer. Now one of the men has spoken out, claiming that he feels he was racially profiled. "
All policemen on patrol should be required to wear a video camera and we would less of the bullying. As it is we just don't have enough information yet! The officers are under investigation and perhaps the ranking officer also needs to be held accountable.
Finding out why some guys are near a closed business in the dark is a good idea. She should have found out why they were there and moved on though.
It's unfortunate that some cops don't seem to have a conversational tone once they put the uniform on. Barking at people is an important part of the job, but it's good to have more than one tool in your toolbox.
so in other words you dont know the whole story and are just making shit up to support your narrative that the cops thugs.
Kinda like how you make up stuff in every thread you post in? Like isis supporters waving isis flags are refugees?
As it is we just don't have enough information yet!
They were sitting on the curb of a parking lot, not the street. That curb and sidewalk and parking lot were not public property as stated by the officer and can be seen in the video of where they are sitting.