Yet another Republican government shutdown looming

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dank69

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Everywhere they possibly can. Every news show, every chance when someone with a microphone is near them, every chance in the chamber, every email or twatter post.
EVERYWHERE is just that EVERYWHERE.
I think they already do that
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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This has nothing to do with any one man and has everything to do with our people.
It is how the media they consume speaks to them, with propaganda, and radicalizes them. Humans are extremely prone to radicalization because we have no tether to reality. A group may believe in and desire the truth, but nothing is going to keep people in said group. Especially with Rush Limbaugh and Fox News picking away at them. Then social media just poured fuel onto the fire they had already started.

No one person disappearing will stop this process, or alter it in any meaningful way.
So long as free speech is abused as a rallying cry for madness, then there will eventually be madness, and blood.

You have some reading to do.
 
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iRONic

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Senator Fetterman says:

“The damage to our nation’s reputation and critical programming, and chaos for America’s families is because of a small group of [Republican] peckerheads in the House,” Fetterman said on Saturday. “This national upheaval is inflicted by choice over nothing except Fox News face time and tributes to the lunatic fringe from their district.”

PA Senator Fetterman has an opinion
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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You have some reading to do.
You would claim avoiding one bad person is important, amidst a society that generates them.
Do you also imagine an election can change the outcome?

Such hope would explain where the fixation on individuals comes from. And maybe 30 years ago that could have made some difference for today. But where we currently stand on this journey, with where human nature takes and divides us, there is no answer found in civil discourse. Even if we choose that path, our opponents will not. Not so long as they proclaim elections fake. No so long as they storm the capitol. To me, the outcome of 2020 is the realization of where MAGA has taken us as a nation. To the precipice, to the very edge of madness and blood.

As we all like to pretend that we are good people, no one has yet taken the next step. But the pressure is building. They still think elections are not real, and so long as that is their core belief, the use of force will become inevitable. Whether they end up as some splintered sectarian violence, an organized terror group, or a fascist military dictatorship, that merely depends on how far their preparations and their violence takes them.

To imagine one Republican House Speaker from the 90s did all this. No, we the American people did it. Born of our hubris and our very nature. We did not guard ourselves from corruption from within. We allowed free speech to be used in a way that harms us, and drives our people towards alt-realities and divisive delusions. Left without guard rails, this is what becomes of humanity. The Libertarian utopia, as it were.

Gingrich did not build this, he was merely its steward for his time, as was Trump, as will be someone far worse. Viva La Revolution!
 

eelw

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Will any Senate congress critter screw up the CR?

And how soon next week will call to remove the spineless one happen?
 

Muse

Lifer
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Last minute deal, but the catch is setting Ukraine adrift, no appropriations for Ukraine. Putin's boys at work in the House and Senate.
 
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iRONic

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Apparently, the big issue that likely played into this was just not giving anyone enough time to pour over the bill before the vote was scheduled.
Then he should have sent in a bomb threat like any other high school kid would do before a test that he didn't study for.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Congress Narrowly Averts Shutdown as House Democrats Help Pass Stopgap Bill​

In a stunning reversal, Speaker Kevin McCarthy pushed through a bill with Democratic votes to temporarily keep the government open. President Biden signed it late Saturday.

Congress narrowly averted a government shutdown on Saturday as the House, in a stunning turnabout, approved a stopgap plan to keep the federal government open until mid-November. After Senate passage, President Biden signed the bill shortly before midnight.

In a rapid-fire sequence of events on Capitol Hill, a coalition of House Democrats and Republicans voted to pass a plan that would keep money flowing to government agencies and provide billions of dollars for disaster recovery efforts. The bill did not include money for Ukraine despite a push for it by the White House and members of both parties in the Senate, but House Democrats embraced the plan anyway, seeing it as the most expedient way to avoid widespread government disruption.

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“This bill is a victory for Putin and Putin sympathizers everywhere,” said Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois, the only Democrat to vote against the bill, who said he did so because it did not include aid to Ukraine. “We now have 45 days to correct this grave mistake.”
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I hope a bill passes real soon funding Ukraine support. That should be bi-partisan.
 
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Fenixgoon

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“This bill is a victory for Putin and Putin sympathizers everywhere,” said Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois, the only Democrat to vote against the bill, who said he did so because it did not include aid to Ukraine. “We now have 45 days to correct this grave mistake.”

He's spot on. But avoiding the shutdown was priority 1. Same thing with the debt ceiling. if the US has an economic meltdown, we got a lot bigger problems than foreign aid.
 
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