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Originally posted by: Steve0
Dunno about that, it just goes against the principle - something like this shouldn't require a service to record TV shows because this is what it's intended to do, this is ridiculous. It's like buying a videocard which will work under windows but will require a subscription to play 3D games. Or think about it this way: this thing shouldn't cost more than $100-120 hardware wise, with the service that I have to buy to get it to work I would have to pay $400 over the course of three years (299 if I decide to do a lifetime activation). 299-400 is three times 100-120 so they are making 200% profit on it...
In other words, if it cost $100-$120 and worked right away, I might have went for it because it's a fair value, but at $299-$400 in hidden costs - never...
What you're paying for is the provision of TV schedule data that enables the TiVo to function as an automated recording device, which is the real joy about it.
That a Series 2 TiVo is useless without that data, and cannot be used manually, well...so it goes. If telephones were free, they'd be useless without a dial tone.
I've got to think that there's a lot of profit in that, and I think that's what FleshConsumed was complaing about. It's sort of like Microsoft. They create another OS or upgrade for an application and "license" it to people for X dollars. Whether 100,000 or 1,000,000 people license it doesn't change the bottom line of how much it costs Microsoft to write the software, and doesn't even increase the cost of support that much. However, it does factor their profit considerably. If they happen to sell 10,000,000 they make a killing and that's why Bill Gates is such a rich man and that's why MS has created (I think) over 10,000 millionaires (am I just dreaming this, not quite - a LOT of millionaires, but I forget just what that mind-boggling number was). I have a resistance to subscriptions myself. I do subscribe to a couple of newpapers, but even that doesn't sit right with me. But at least I get something physical at my door every day. When I buy an electronic component, I know that a team of people had to design it, test it, manufacture it, deliver it, market it and it has to be supported afterward, and there's a limited window for the product. In 6 months or a year that product will be history. I don't mind so much paying for the product under such circumstances. It's a deal I can be comfortable with, IOW. Subscriptions arouse suspicion, however, especially to things electronic, such as cable TV, satellite TV, and internet access. Also, electronic subsription services of one kind or another seem to be more monopolistic than material goods, where the marketplace is a lot more competitive, IMO.