Yoga against Christian beliefs???

[uhohs]

Originally posted by: WingZero94

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

Didn't you know -

Jesus said: "Love thy neighbor [unless he worships a different god, the same god in a different way, or not at all]"

Fail.

Jesus hung around the people who were not following Christian beliefs and taught/preached to them His Gospel.

fixed because you left out an important part.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Who knows? Churches are filled and run by crazy people.

Fixed

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: WingZero94

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

Didn't you know -

Jesus said: "Love thy neighbor [unless he worships a different god, the same god in a different way, or not at all]"

Fail.

Jesus hung around the people who were not following Christian beliefs.

That's a joke... I say, that's a joke, son.</foghorn leghorn>

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Psynaut
Yoga is more than an exercize, it is a system of spiritual belief that originated in India, I believe. the intent of Yoga is to realize enlightenment, self-realization, and ones oneness with God (in the Buddhist and Hindu sense). In order to achieve this, one must transcend the phyical and enter an consciousness of spirituality. And in order to transcend the physical, abuot 5 different variation of Yoga evolved. hatha yoga, which is what we know in the US as Yoga, is actually a practice of pushing the body to such great extremes, that one transcends it altogether. Kundalini does it through breathing and opening the thrid eye. There a re a few other forms that follow different paths to the same final destination. Yoga is an entore system of philosophy and beliefs, and you can find many books on the subject.

So, her church is probably aware of the roots of Yoga and therefore prohibits it. In the US though, it is just a form of exercize, so it is kinda dumb to prohibit it.

That about sums it up.

 

[SagaLore]

Yoga's origin has nothing to do with anything religious.

Then at some point it incorporated some hindu meditation.

But modern yoga has all the extra religious aspects removed again. Christians are a little confused.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

That would make 11 Commandments...

:laugh:

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

Intolerance has always been the first commandment.

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

Intolerance has always been the first commandment.

As opposed to the tolerance shown someone who doesn't want to participate in something that violates their religious beliefs without condemning or belittling the practice or its' adherents? :disgust:

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

That would make 11 Commandments...

:laugh:

Judging from how many priests are out there raping little boys or having secret gay love affairs, I'd say they probably removed the one for adultery.

:laugh:

 

[AstroManLuca]

Another thing, remember that a lot of people go to church because they don't want to have to decide for themselves what constitutes right and wrong. So they go to church and let someone tell them what they are supposed to believe. I doubt she has any idea why yoga is prohibited beyond "the church told me so."

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

Intolerance has always been the first commandment.

As opposed to the tolerance shown someone who doesn't want to participate in something that violates their religious beliefs without condemning or belittling the practice or its' adherents? :disgust:

Yoga doesn't violate anyone's religious beliefs, unless they belong to a church that is both fundamentally ignorant of something as basically benign but a bit "foreign" like yoga, and goes so far as to demonize and forbid it.

The overwhelming majority of religious posters (such as myself) here should be as eager to distance themselves from this STUPIDLY ignorant bigotry as anyone.

Those who seem to feel the OP is an attack on their religious beliefs . . . well, it makes you wonder what their religious beliefs really are.

 

[Pepsei]

yea, i remember reading some Christian poster about how yoga is filled with meditation and chanting the mantras of a demon....

but it's funny that you can take yoga in YMCA.... bring that up with your coworker... than make out with her.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Who knows? Churches are filled and run by crazy people.

Indeed.

this.

okay maybe that's too strong, not all churches are filled with crazy people, just some of them. there are some fucking crazy atheists too.

I find that christians are only crazy when they're actually IN church. That's when they get all eaten up with guilt for thinking moderately naughty things and start crying and stuff. I've been to services where I think if the pastor had chosen the right moment he could have sent his congregation on an indiscriminate killing spree with a few choice words. I'd say the number of crazy atheists probably falls in line with the average percentage of the population, while the number of crazy christians rises to near 100% for an hour or so a couple of times a week and drops off to normal levels the rest of the time.

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Intolerance is one of the new 10 Commandments

Intolerance has always been the first commandment.

As opposed to the tolerance shown someone who doesn't want to participate in something that violates their religious beliefs without condemning or belittling the practice or its' adherents? :disgust:

Yoga doesn't violate anyone's religious beliefs, unless they belong to a church that is both fundamentally ignorant of something as basically benign but a bit "foreign" like yoga, and goes so far as to demonize and forbid it.

The overwhelming majority of religious posters (such as myself) here should be as eager to distance themselves from this STUPIDLY ignorant bigotry as anyone.

Those who seem to feel the OP is an attack on their religious beliefs . . . well, it makes you wonder what their religious beliefs really are.

Whether you agree with the beliefs of the church in the OP isn't the point. The point is the posters railing against perceived intolerance. All she said was she wouldn't practice yoga, not that no one should be able to practice yoga. You can argue ignorance if you like, but not intolerance.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Another thing, remember that a lot of people go to church because they don't want to have to decide for themselves what constitutes right and wrong. So they go to church and let someone tell them what they are supposed to believe. I doubt she has any idea why yoga is prohibited beyond "the church told me so."

Frankly, you sound almost as ignorant as those you are trying to condemn.

I'm sure there's some segment of the population who are intellectually and morally lazy and prefer having someone else tell them what is right and wrong (or they stay at home and become what Bill Maher calls an "apotheist"), but I'd venture to say that many more people go to church because they've already decided what they believe is right and wrong and so select a church (or religion) that conforms to their beliefs.

 

[sandorski]

Brought to you by the same people who freak out abbout Harry Potter, Rock Music, Incense, and other nonsense. Not the Mainstream of Christianity, but a good portion of it.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: TBone48
The point is the posters railing against perceived intolerance. All she said was she wouldn't practice yoga, not that no one should be able to practice yoga. You can argue ignorance if you like, but not intolerance.

Wrong. Nothing perceived about it. "All she said" was this:

it was taught in her church that yoga is against Christianity...

That is actual intolerance, with ignorance and doctrinal wrongness thrown in for good measure.

Yoga is NOT against Christianity, and it was NOT the case that "All she said was she wouldn't practice yoga . . ."

See?

 

[EGGO]

Makes sense if you're a baptist...I guess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga

 

[Psynaut]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Yoga's origin has nothing to do with anything religious.

Then at some point it incorporated some hindu meditation.

But modern yoga has all the extra religious aspects removed again. Christians are a little confused.

Yoga is absolutely a philosophy. it is intended to unit the mind and the body with the One (meaning God). I have books written about Yoga that are very much spiritual/philisophical texts, and which say nothing about any exercise.

Yoga Philosophy - short version

History and philosophy - long version

History of Yoga

Americans think it is just an exercise, and in America it is. But that isn't what it is in India.

 

[huberm]

probably in reference to the religious roots of yoga. I'm not so sure what the big deal would be about doing the exercises.

 

[onlyCOpunk]

If anything Yoga could bring people closer to Jesus. I wont get into the semantics of it, but having done Yoga for a couple years now, I can say that it in no way contradicts the Bible or any religious beliefs for that matter.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Psynaut
Americans think it is just an exercise, and in America it is. But that isn't what it is in India.

However, we aren't in India.

 

[Psynaut]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Psynaut
Americans think it is just an exercise, and in America it is. But that isn't what it is in India.

However, we aren't in India.

Is that supposed to mean something?

 

[onlyCOpunk]

Only the women at the gym think Yoga is an exercise. Go to an actual Yoga studio, one that isn't focused on exercise and you will find that many people take it a lot further then exercise. In my opinion without the philosophy be the different styles it's worthless as you don't truly understand why you are doing what you are doing. eg, sure you can get into some crazy position, but do you understand what mental thought process it takes to get there? what the significance of the pose is trying to achieve? why you either spread your fingers or close them together? why your toes are pointed, spread, or halfway in between?

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Brought to you by the same people who freak out abbout Harry Potter, Rock Music, Incense, and other nonsense. Not the Mainstream of Christianity, but a good portion of it.

Wonder if it is the same people that changed "Philosopher's Stone" to "Sorcerer's Stone" for America

as to Yoga, it is a spiritual belief system, so I won't say the church people were wrong.