You all realize if Obama wins you can kiss your money goodbye right?

TheNinja

Lifer
Jan 22, 2003
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Oh I never considered that. Let me go re-vote. Wow you just changed my mind.

Too late, you should have thought about that before you voted. Say hello to 4 more years of increase debt, increase taxes, increase tax payer funded health care, decrease stock market, decreased home values, and decreased education.

Change??? - That's his catch phrase b/c change (and not dollar bills yo!) is all you'll have left in your pockets when he's done with you.
 

badb0y

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Feb 22, 2010
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Too late, you should have thought about that before you voted. Say hello to 4 more years of increase debt, increase taxes, increase tax payer funded health care, decrease stock market, decreased home values, and decreased education.

Change??? - That's his catch phrase b/c change (and not dollar bills yo!) is all you'll have left in your pockets when he's done with you.

I use welfare moneys lawl
 

Juddog

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Dec 11, 2006
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That's funny - I have more money now then when I voted for him 4 years ago.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
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Aug 23, 2003
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I don't need money I got like 5 cell phones from the government.
 

diesbudt

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Jun 1, 2012
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Doesn't matter who gets voted in. Taxes going up 2% next year because a tax cut will expire that neither party will extend.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Ohh gosh, he might return us to the effective tax rates we had in those horrible economic times called the late 90s. How dare he.
 
Feb 6, 2007
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People who are unwilling to pay for the privilege of living in the best country on Earth don't deserve to live in it.
 

mshan

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"A jump in the stock market and rising home prices are bringing Americans closer to regaining the wealth they lost in the recession.

U.S. household net worth dipped in the April-June quarter, according to a Federal Reserve report released Thursday. But gains in stock and home equity since the last quarter ended have likely raised total household wealth to within 5 percent of its peak before the Great Recession.

Millions of Americans still feeling the effects of the housing bust, or who don't own any stocks, haven't benefited as much."


http://www.cnbc.com/id/49105009
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/highe...ericans-regain-wealth-214428620--finance.html



I also think one also needs to go back to the uneasy quiet (spring / summer of 2008) before the stock market crash in 2008 for some historical perspective:

- Oil (Brent) went to $147

- gas was approaching $5

- inflation peaked out at 5.6%






And for a bit more long-term perspective on illusory vs. durable wealth creation (at least for Main Street):
Stock market returns (T. D. Ameritrade's "Enlightened Investor" magazine (fall 2008 edition), page 3):


Average Annual Returns:
- Democrat: 9.0%
- Republican: 5.8%


Cumulative Return on $10,000:
- Democrat: $315,449
- Republican: $73,536


Average Annual Returns (individual administrations):
- FDR 7.5%
- Truman 8.3%
- Eisenhower 10.9%
- Kennedy 6.5%
- LBJ 7.7%
- Nixon -3.9%
- Ford 10.8%
- Carter 6.9%
- Reagan 10.2%
- H. W. Bush 11.0%
- Clinton 15.2%
- George W Bush -0.8% (through 8/25/08)



(in reconciling average annual returns with the cumulative gain on $10,000 statistic above, I'm guessing that Republican administrations have represented giant boom and bust cycles where lots of money was made, lots of money was lost, but the net overall effect was simply transfer of wealth, rather than gains that hold significantly over time?)
Average Annual Cumulative Return:






http://www.bluevirginia.us/diary/73...our-wallet-dems-outperform-republicans-by-far


** Obviously you won't have 40 years of continuous Democratic (or Republican) rule, so the sequential compounding above is only hypothetical and most likely very grossly exaggerates the actual pot of money you would end up with in reality ** (second chart, which looks like lump sum investing, and third chart, which is dollar cost averaging and probably what most people with 401k would relate to, then extrapolating cumulative return over time by using average annual return over 40 years of Republican rule (5.8% average annual return) vs. 40 years of Democratic rule (9.6% average annual return)



http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2272073
 
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PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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Here, I got a white mask and a wooden cross with some matches you can use to intimidate voters with.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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As opposed to what plan that's superior?

National Post - John Moore: Barack Obama is the better man

...

The International Monetary Fund is projecting 3% annual growth for the U.S. That’s better than most developed nations including Germany, France and Canada. By nearly every metric from consumer spending and confidence, housing, corporate profits and debt-to-GDP ratio the U.S. has not only turned the corner but is outpacing other recovering economies. Republicans can cherry pick numbers to pretend Americans are worse off under Obama but the real debate has to be about how much better off they are now than they would have been under right-wing voodoo economics and unregulated financial flim-flammery.

For his part Mitt Romney offers an opaque tax plan that hinges on a disproved theory that tax cuts for the rich create wealth for everyone and that they pay for themselves. Never have. Never will. His running-mate is a man who draws his financial wisdom from a cultish crank who regards selfishness as the greatest human virtue.

“But what about the debt?” wail Republicans. That – as Bill Clinton would say – “takes brass”. No one has worked harder than the GOP to accumulate debt since 1981. Setting aside the stimulus, the current deficit situation is entirely the product of the previous administration’s profligacy and the current Congress’s agenda of thwarting Obama at any cost.

...
 

mrCide

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Funny, I'm doing much better now than i was 4 years ago, so is everybody I know.

You can't imagine how many people believe the horseshit in the OP's post though. I had someone come into my office telling me how her rich husband will lose half of his money if Obama gets reelected and how "that's just not right". Good times.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Say hello to 4 more years of increase debt,

Right, 'cause this never happened under any other president and it wouldn't have happened under Mittens.

increase taxes

Sure hope so, that would mean I'm making more than $250k! :thumbsup:

increase tax payer funded health care

Sweet

decrease stock market

LOL, I hope it "decreases" as much as it has in the last four years. Are you fucking serious?

decreased home values,

Right, because the housing market collapsed under Obama?

and decreased education.

Darn, I was hoping my kids could learn all about Intelligent Design, how rape shuts down a woman's uterous, global warming isn't real, and whatever other nutball shit the GOP is preaching these days.

Change??? - That's his catch phrase b/c change (and not dollar bills yo!) is all you'll have left in your pockets when he's done with you.

If you can't make money under Obama, you suck and deserve to fail.
 

airdata

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Jul 11, 2010
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You realize you're an idiot and that Obama didn't single handedly give out trillions of dollars in bailouts or defraud the bailout system, right?

You realize that the federal reserve will remain unchanged regardless who wins, right?

You realize they passed QE3 already to authorize unlimited money printing, right?

So, shut the fuck up w\ your no brain partisan bullshit and lurk more.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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I am frankly flabbergasted that Romney's election campaign survived his 47% comments. He insulted nearly half of the people living in the US. What would he had to have done to alienate the entire electorate, piss on your flag?

It reminds me of a Futurama episode with Richard Nixon's head making comments that he didn't realise were being recorded:

"Nixon: Listen here, Missy. Computers may be twice as fast as they were in 1973, but your average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever. The only thing that's different is me; I've become bitter, and let's face it, crazy over the years. And once I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat, and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place. Muahahaha!"
 
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