"You are expected to work 10 hours a day"

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: charrison
The only way you lose by quitting is if you take a job that pays less. Tell you boss you need to be better compenstated for a 50 hour normal week. The worst thing that will happen is they will say no, and you can start looking for a better job.

This is the bottom line, and the only real option for Namuna!!! Those of you who think what his employer is doing is illegal, really need to get a clue. Go talk to your local car salesman, or the manager of any retail store in your area ans see what they work. Illegal, I don't think so.

 

[electricJ]

Originally posted by: jadinolf

Originally posted by: Albis
50 hours isn't that bad. it could be worse

When I was in management 60 hours was not unusual for me. If you are worried about how many hours you are working you'd better get an hourly job.

I think when they tell you to your face that its expected, thats another thing.

 

[Fritzo]

If you're salary, you're screwed because you are basically being paid to make sure a specific job is constantly maintained.

If you're hourly, you get overtime pay for anything over 40 hours.

I recently got the choice to go to hourly or stay on salary with more sick time. I went to hourly and my yearly pay went up by $2000/year

 

[MetalMat]

It sucks, I am gonna have to put in like a ton of hours for my new job. I am on call for 15 days and off 6.

 

[apoppin]

look for another job in your field . . . compare . . .

THEN see if what you have is worth it

IF it is NOT, talk to you company about a raise and/or better hours . . . quit if you don't like what they tell you [making damn sure you "have" the other job].

obviously they don't feel they owe you anything . . . you owe them the same consideration


good luck!

Curious? how were condidions when you started and what changed to mandate unpaid OT?

 

[Albis]

it most professional fields you cannot be put on an hourly pay system so many ppl are stuck with the salaried employee way of life

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
My input......... Most of you salary based employees never work your required hours anyway so they upped it so you're stuck at work another hour or two a day. You idiots that buy $250,000+ dollar homes and have 10 kids should be hammered by the government instead of given a damn tax break! Less Pollution/Garbage/Taxes spent simply put! We that have no kids should be given the tax breaks..................... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAXING on housing for your local school in your neighborhood when you don't have kids???? Up yours a******!

All you hillbillies/less fortunate take advantage of the Government anyway. Hey we can get Clinton in there again, Maybe you could suck his **** for help!

so you are a communist, thanks for the tips

 

[Cooler]

Get A Goverment job You will work 40 hours a week always.

 

[racolvin]

I had this discussion with my boss several times. My offer letter clearly stated X salary per year assuming a full-time 40-hour work week. When he asked me on occassion why I went home at 5 every day and never worked over, I told him quite clearly that he had "bought and paid" for 40 hours. Anything over that was a gift from me, he had no right to expect any more than that. Understanding that he couldn't pay me overtime or anything like that, I told him I'm perfectly willing to put in extra time for deadlines, etc but I expected some flexibility on his part when it came time for me to leave early once in a while or take a long lunch to run errands,etc. You want me to be flexible then he had to be flexible.

Had that conversation calmly and honestly and it worked out just fine after that. Oh he needed to be reminded every year or so but for the most part I did my 40 hours and went home.

R

 

[Ornery]

I think I should consult someone as to what my rights are, but who?

Your Savior!

 

[cavemanmoron]

I am a salaried employee

you want to work 8 hours a day,get a NON Salary job.

Salary sux,bites,etc............

A friend of mine was told before starting at a "Salary" job,that it would be
9 hours a day,Mon-Fri,and 4-5 hours on Saturday. For "X$$" per week.
No "contract" in writing with those hours,just one that said;"As Needed" for X$$.

After 2 weeks of on the job training it changed to 12-14 hours Mon.-Fri,and 8-10 hours
on Saturday,and sometimes 6 hours on Sunday to do paper work,that could not get
done during the "normal" hours.

This was because the previous "Manager" quit,after having to work those same type of
hours.

She worked the crappy hours for 2 months and one day gave her 2 week notice.

Salary is employee abuse if you ask me.

She asked for a raise,and was told,no

 

[freebee]

Get a government desk job. 9-5/10-6 etc. 45 min-1hr lunch. All fed holidays, 2 wk vac. Slack off all day. And no required OT.

Or if you are a salaried employee being made to work 50hrs, compensate yourself by taking company supplies/goods. Its not stealing because you deserved them anyway.

 

[edmundoab]

i know labor law says something like 8 hours after lunch time deduction
but I am already doing 9 hours after 1 hour lunch break deductiion

so, that makes up to over 50 hours a week as I am required to work half a day on saturdays

but I am still puzzled how they (the company gets away with it)
holding an ISO 9001 status so to speak

 

[spidey07]

That's BS.

Find another job. They can't make you work more than 40 hours. Maybe speak to an attorney.

Heck there may even be a company policy stating what the hours are. At my previous place you were salaried and expected to work 7.5 hours a day for a total of 37.5 hours per week.

There's this thing called life and employees want to start living it.

Start here to locate a lawyer for consultation.

http://www.handleonthelaw.com/

 

[mattocs]

Suck it up and work. Work weeks are no longer 40 hours...they are becoming 50.

It sucks, I know...but if you are really unhappy, look for a new job.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: OBW96
Suck it up and work. Work weeks are no longer 40 hours...they are becoming 50.

It sucks, I know...but if you are really unhappy, look for a new job.

Actually the current trend is to work 40 hours only. There have been numerous articles about how employees are taking back control of their life. No e-mail, no cell phone calls after hours (just don't answer it), etc.

I did it, and couldn't be happier. there is more to life than work.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: shilala
Just don't do it and force their hand.
It's best to do a balls check to see what they're made of before you tell them they'll need to get up with a 20% raise if they want 20% more time.

Got math?

 

[Mears]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
First of all, if salaried employees are expected to put in 50 hours a week, then your salary is based on 50 hours per week, not 40. You're being paid for 50 hours each week.

Second, you're salaried exempt. You don't get overtime and they're perfectly free to expect 50 hours per week. So stop with the labor lawyer BS.

Third, boo-friggin-hoo. If you don't want to quit then your obviously satisfied with things as they are, so stop complaining. If you weren't OK with this, you'd be pushing your resume out to anyone who'd look at it. And be glad you're not in Finance. You'd be salaried and expected to put in 65-70 hours a week. Don't even get me started on the 80-90 hour weeks in Investment Banking. 50 hours a week is barely idling through.

ZV

Give me a fvcking break. That was the worst generalization ever.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
If you are salaried, they CAN NOT TELL YOU TO WORK 50 HOUR DAYS! It is highly illegal!

That is false.

"Exempt employees are generally expected to devote the number of hours necessary to complete their respective tasks, regardless of whether that requires 35 hours per week or 55 hours per week. Their compensation doesn't change based on actual hours expended. Exempt employees aren't paid extra for putting in more than 40 hours per week; they're paid for getting the job done. On the other hand, non-exempt employees must be paid overtime if they work more than 40 hours per workweek, so it often behooves employers to keep non-exempt employees' hours down. "

 

[Steve]

bsobel is right. I have been an hourly helpdesk employee for nearly a year, and I relish my overtime Recently there was an opening for LAN Tech. that us helpdeskers applied and interviewed for. I knew I wouldn't get it, I just went through the process for the experience. But I'm glad I didn't, as the network staff have a lot of extended days doing projects (upgrades, maintenance, installs) after 5pm. No comp, and the raise is minimal.

 

[Namuna]

Originally posted by: dolph
http://www.myemploymentlawyer.com/mel/answer.php3?answer_id=1939

Wow, out of all the responses, this was the only actual person who tried to answer the question specifically. Thank you dolph, that site was very helpful.

I see the large part of the responses was for me to polish up my resume and start looking for alternative employment elsewhere. But really, what's wrong with trying to find out what my rights are BEFORE I go through the effort of looking for another job? Especially since I haven't had to deal with a resume/interview in almost a DECADE??!!

I do thank the other folks who actually took the time to write out some solid opinions on course of action, that was helpful as well.

Thanks folks.

 

[Hyudra]

isn't all the extra work time paid off in a end of year bonus?

 

[Kelemvor]

Have you talked to your HR representative?

 

[Darkstar757]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
First of all, if salaried employees are expected to put in 50 hours a week, then your salary is based on 50 hours per week, not 40. You're being paid for 50 hours each week.

Second, you're salaried exempt. You don't get overtime and they're perfectly free to expect 50 hours per week. So stop with the labor lawyer BS.

Third, boo-friggin-hoo. If you don't want to quit then your obviously satisfied with things as they are, so stop complaining. If you weren't OK with this, you'd be pushing your resume out to anyone who'd look at it. And be glad you're not in Finance. You'd be salaried and expected to put in 65-70 hours a week. Don't even get me started on the 80-90 hour weeks in Investment Banking. 50 hours a week is barely idling through.

ZV

Dude WTF!

I mean come on you dont even know this guys situation. If I was a family man I wouldnt want to work 80 or 90 a week. I think that whats wrong with America now, we work so hard we negelect our health, family etc. So I think you should ease up. Just because you are a over worked crazy person dont take it out on him.

 

[dr150]

Namuna,
You're taking your bosses words way too literally...very naive on your part.

A boss can ask his employees to jump hoops to motivate them, but internally he knows that they if they meet half of the requirement goals he'll be pleased.

Remember that unrealistic goals start at the top level of mgmt. and roll their way down hill to lower level mgrs. These goals are usually impossible, but its the "job" of every manager to pay lip service with employees to squeeze out some "better" performance than last year.

As long as you do the work and show your "8 hr. face", you're golden. Take the talk with a grain of salt.

Work = Politics............Learn to manage expectations.


And if you are truly being overworked all of a sudden, then its time to look elsewhere. Play it by ear. However, 90% of the time manager goal-talk is just.....talk/politics.