You are given 1700.00 dollars to buy a TV...

[Chunkee]

getting the upgrade bug...have a sammy 40lcd 1080p...no problems..it is 8 bit. we are 12 feet out from viewing in a fairly well lit room with very high ceilings....

The PS3 would be used on this TV as well. We do have comcast hd/dvr and bluray.

thanks

JC

 

[erwos]

Samsung LED DLP, the biggest you can buy.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: erwos
Samsung LED DLP, the biggest you can buy.

2nd

 

[krotchy]

Samsung 52A550, but really I would wait until April/May, since all the TV's just got announced at CES and are released then. The newer TV's always come out with a lower MSRP and more features than their previous year equivalents, and they don't take long to hit sale prices.

Last year I was looking at the Samsung 5271 which dropped as low as $2400 on Amazon around Christmas. Within a week of release the 52A650 could be found for around the same price, and it is basically the 5271 with a higher contrast and improved 120Hz. Waiting until the 2009 models come out this time of year is totally worth it unless you are planning a super bowl party.

 

[Tiamat]

12' away is way too far for a 40" 1080P display. A 65" screen would be considered minimum for that viewing distance and resolution.

 

[Chunkee]

Originally posted by: Tiamat
12' away is way too far for a 40" 1080P display. A 65" screen would be considered minimum for that viewing distance and resolution.

Sorry Joe,

All I could afford at the time. So, I am looking for a replacement. Not everyone is a high dollar charlie like you. I have been looking at 58" plasma TVs from Samsung...going up to 65" gets too high dollar....

 

[sdifox]

http://www.6ave.com/SHOP/product.aspx?sku=MITWD65735


push your budget a little and you get the LED driven DLP RPTV

http://www.6ave.com/SHOP/product.aspx?sku=SAMHL67A750

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Chunkee

Originally posted by: Tiamat
12' away is way too far for a 40" 1080P display. A 65" screen would be considered minimum for that viewing distance and resolution.

Sorry Joe,

All I could afford at the time. So, I am looking for a replacement. Not everyone is a high dollar charlie like you. I have been looking at 58" plasma TVs from Samsung...going up to 65" gets too high dollar....

First of all, my name is Jon. Secondly, I am not a high dollar charlie. Thirdly, I was simply stating that for your distance and resolution, 40" is not enough. I am simply stating the facts as noted by here and here so that you can use that information to spend your 1700$ on a solution that best makes use of your 12' viewing angle. So, try not to get your panties all wrapped up and read a little to better understand what TV technology will facilitate the best use of your hard earned money. You deserve at least that much. A little knowledge goes a long way.

At around 1850$, you can get a 67" 1080P LED DLP Samsung. Sure, it stretches your budget a little. If you can't stretch the budget, the 61" version should be well within your grasp.


Finally, if you decrease the distance between your couch and your TV, you can ease the need for such a large screen and your budget will then place you well within the grasp of some nice samsung LCDTVs in the 50" range.

 

[Glavinsolo]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: erwos
Samsung LED DLP, the biggest you can buy.

2nd

Why do people like this tv so much? I need answers! It looks awful compared to the lcds in the store. the silky shimmer and the side views

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: erwos
Samsung LED DLP, the biggest you can buy.

2nd

Why do people like this tv so much? I need answers! It looks awful compared to the lcds in the store. the silky shimmer and the side views

It's the best bang for your buck. Large screen, good picture quality and a great price. So that is a 61" DLP for ~$1350, OR you can get a Pioneer 60" for $4000. Hmmm, I wonder why someone would choose the DLP. Some people can't or don't want to spend the extra money for a flat panel. And from 50" to 60", the price of a flat panel jumps up exponentially. DLPs just offer a great bang for your buck.

And this is a perfect case. Like Tiamat said, 40" is waaay too small for 12'. That is PC monitor size. I'd highly recommend getting a nice 61" or 67" DLP in this case.

 

[LS21]

3rd DLP for that size... unless u have baller status and can get 120" plasma...

 

[krotchy]

Why do people who make the argument for DLP's always ignore the fact that they have absolute shit viewing angles and dismiss anyone who brings it up. I really want to like DLP's, and hoped that eventually the LED ones might someday have the viewing angles to make them nice, but it is simply a dealbreaker for me. Unless your couch sits in line with the middle of the TV DLP's simply don't look very good. Yes in the sweet spot they are a great bang for the buck, but in a living/family room having an optimal setup is tough for lots of people.

 

[syzygy]

Originally posted by: krotchy
Why do people who make the argument for DLP's always ignore the fact that they have absolute shit viewing angles and dismiss anyone who brings it up. I really want to like DLP's, and hoped that eventually the LED ones might someday have the viewing angles to make them nice, but it is simply a dealbreaker for me. Unless your couch sits in line with the middle of the TV DLP's simply don't look very good. Yes in the sweet spot they are a great bang for the buck, but in a living/family room having an optimal setup is tough for lots of people.

damn right. DLPs are piss-poor bleak. You can use the pictures they render to
medically explain what tunnel vision looks like.

Any of the Sammies, Sony XBRs, Sony Bravias, certain Pannie plasmas all kill that
crap DLP technology - at the price point mentioned.

 

[Chunkee]

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: krotchy
Why do people who make the argument for DLP's always ignore the fact that they have absolute shit viewing angles and dismiss anyone who brings it up. I really want to like DLP's, and hoped that eventually the LED ones might someday have the viewing angles to make them nice, but it is simply a dealbreaker for me. Unless your couch sits in line with the middle of the TV DLP's simply don't look very good. Yes in the sweet spot they are a great bang for the buck, but in a living/family room having an optimal setup is tough for lots of people.

damn right. DLPs are piss-poor bleak. You can use the pictures they render to
medically explain what tunnel vision looks like.

Any of the Sammies, Sony XBRs, Sony Bravias, certain Pannie plasmas all kill that
crap DLP technology - at the price point mentioned.

I am on an LCD now, but am thinking a Plasma would be better. I want darker blacks, no bleeding and not motion blur...no pixelation. I do have bluray, ps3 and HD content on Comcast.

I think Plasma may be the way to go... but which one...?

JC

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: erwos
Samsung LED DLP, the biggest you can buy.

2nd

Why do people like this tv so much? I need answers! It looks awful compared to the lcds in the store. the silky shimmer and the side views

First of all, store condition <> home condition. Chances are the RPTVs are sitting on the ground but no couch was setup in front of them. Vertical viewing angle is not so great for RPTV so it will not look good.

2nd, bang for the buck factor. with the LED backlighting you elliminate one of the biggest issues with DLP RPTV and that is the lamp. It also helps on expanding viewing angle. Laser driven DLP however, is the solution and Mitsu is close to releasing a73" with a reported 160 degree viewing angle.

There should not be any shimmers. I am all for value, that is why I am on a Mitsu HC4900 LCD projector that cost me US1500.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: krotchy
Why do people who make the argument for DLP's always ignore the fact that they have absolute shit viewing angles and dismiss anyone who brings it up. I really want to like DLP's, and hoped that eventually the LED ones might someday have the viewing angles to make them nice, but it is simply a dealbreaker for me. Unless your couch sits in line with the middle of the TV DLP's simply don't look very good. Yes in the sweet spot they are a great bang for the buck, but in a living/family room having an optimal setup is tough for lots of people.

I don't think anyone is ignoring DLP's poor viewing angles. What we are comparing is a 61"/67" DLP to a 40" LCD, which I don't care if it has a 180 degree viewing angle (which it doesn't), is simply too small for 12'. Seriously, I think 50" is too small for 12'. So, what would you rather have, poor viewing angles, or a display you can barely see any details because of the size even when you are sitting dead center. The guy has a limited budget. If he said, I want the best display for a 12' seat distance. I'd say, Pioneer Elite 141/151, Samsung 55" 950 or Sony 55" XBR8. At $1700, you ain't getting the best display and it will always have a big down side. The best you can do is pick a display that will work best for you. And in this case, at $1700, I'd say a larger DLP will give a better HD experience than an equally priced much smaller LCD or plasma.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Chunkee

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: krotchy
Why do people who make the argument for DLP's always ignore the fact that they have absolute shit viewing angles and dismiss anyone who brings it up. I really want to like DLP's, and hoped that eventually the LED ones might someday have the viewing angles to make them nice, but it is simply a dealbreaker for me. Unless your couch sits in line with the middle of the TV DLP's simply don't look very good. Yes in the sweet spot they are a great bang for the buck, but in a living/family room having an optimal setup is tough for lots of people.

damn right. DLPs are piss-poor bleak. You can use the pictures they render to
medically explain what tunnel vision looks like.

Any of the Sammies, Sony XBRs, Sony Bravias, certain Pannie plasmas all kill that
crap DLP technology - at the price point mentioned.

I am on an LCD now, but am thinking a Plasma would be better. I want darker blacks, no bleeding and not motion blur...no pixelation. I do have bluray, ps3 and HD content on Comcast.

I think Plasma may be the way to go... but which one...?

JC

Did you edit your original post? I thought you had a $1700 budget. You ain't getting a 58" quality plasma (Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer) for $1700. You can get a nice 50" Samsung PN50A650 for about ~$1600 though. You have to be careful with IR on the Samsung plasmas though. They're more prone to it than Panasonic and Pioneer plasmas. If you are careful, you should be ok though.

 

[JackBurton]

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[thomsbrain]

For $1800, you can get a Sanyo 1080P 120Hz LCD projector and an entry-level 100" screen. I'll be in the market soon with a similar budget, and that's the way I'm leaning right now.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
For $1800, you can get a Sanyo 1080P 120Hz LCD projector and an entry-level 100" screen. I'll be in the market soon with a similar budget, and that's the way I'm leaning right now.

I want soooo bad to experiment with a projector + screen. I'm just hesitant, I'd have to see someones setup in person first though. Too bad noone I know is gonna have a setup like that, lol

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: krotchy
Why do people who make the argument for DLP's always ignore the fact that they have absolute shit viewing angles and dismiss anyone who brings it up. I really want to like DLP's, and hoped that eventually the LED ones might someday have the viewing angles to make them nice, but it is simply a dealbreaker for me. Unless your couch sits in line with the middle of the TV DLP's simply don't look very good. Yes in the sweet spot they are a great bang for the buck, but in a living/family room having an optimal setup is tough for lots of people.

Stores are pretty much the worst places ever to look at DLPs - they're on shelves at bad vertical viewing angles, the bulbs are screwed up from being on torch mode 24/7, and SSE is super-easy to spot when you're a foot away from the TV.

_Horizontal_ viewing angles tend to be very reasonable. My SXRD is basically viewable anywhere in the room, and where it's not, it's because you're almost _next_ to the TV, a problem LCD isn't going to fix. I find it _very_ hard to believe you've got different vertical viewing angles, so that's not going to be an issue.

But, you're right, there are trade-offs. Some of us are willing to accept a marginally-reduced viewing angle and more depth for a larger, _better_ picture. It also pisses some of us off that the "ooh, bright shiny LCD" brigade pops in to denigrate the option every time it's presented.

 

[Koing]

Go with what YOUR EYES like on a DECENT setup (torch mode off, normal colours etc).

If you like DLP, roll with that.

I bought a Panasonic TH50PX81B screen. I'm loving it. The 60" were FAR too much £££ for me.

Koing

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: yh125d

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
For $1800, you can get a Sanyo 1080P 120Hz LCD projector and an entry-level 100" screen. I'll be in the market soon with a similar budget, and that's the way I'm leaning right now.

I want soooo bad to experiment with a projector + screen. I'm just hesitant, I'd have to see someones setup in person first though. Too bad noone I know is gonna have a setup like that, lol

What is your viewing distance, can you hang the projector, ambient light issues? These are the big factors to determine if you can do projector.

I don't use the home theatre during the day so the sun washing out the picture is not a big concern for me. You can get blinds to help with that.

Also, projector setup tend to be geared to more dedicated setup, usually not your living room tv saturday morning cartoon kind of setup. Complexity does go up quite a bit if you are going to setup yourself.

Head over to AVSforum if you dare

 

[LS21]

viewing angle is much less of a problem at a far away distance... and in a large room like he has theres little chance he'll be at such a wide angle to the tv. projectors are good for a dark dedicated viewing room but i wouldnt use it in an open room as normal tv viewing

 

[Cyn]

Wait till June, save an extra $200 and buy the 55" Vizio 240Hz XVT series.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...tes-to-the-xvt-series/