You are single and have $1,000,000 in assets.

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
No, if you need one don't get married. Even if you do have a reasonably good chance of divorce (and you do), you're just a fvcking douche if you go around with that hanging over the marriage's head. If you love her enough to marry her now you should love her enough to give her a bunch of money later. And so what if you lose some money, you'll die one day and your net worth won't count for a sh*t in the woods.

This. (I can't believe I'm agreeing with skoorb.)

Originally posted by: yh125d
Don't get married

Or this.

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For the religious folks championing prenups: It seems that a passage (or ten) could be found in the bible discouraging this. What would your god think about such little confidence in your decision?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

The factors that cause Divorce are too emotionally charged to predict the actions of those involved. People don't Divorce casually, it is usually after some trauma, such as Infidelity. If people were able to Predict such things, they wouldn't be getting a Divorce in the first place.

So knowing how someone reacts under extreme pressure is impossible too?

It's not merely "extreme" pressure, it's Personal.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


Since you can so confidently and accurately predict the future behaviors of your partner you should probably start a consulting firm to help others do the same.

Well since you can so accurately predict that a marriage will inevitably fail and thus pre-nups are required, maybe you should start a consulting firm to help others decide whether they should get married or not, since obviously Icebergslim knows best. :roll:

Lol your missing the point. the pre-nup is because nobody knows whats going to happen and I'd rather not get screwed if my wife goes off the deepend starts smoking crack, banging rappers and asking for a divorce. Its to insure I DON"T GET FUCKED if someone else decides they don't want to be married to me anymore. Get it? I can't control someone else, pre-nup makes it possible for me to be protected rather punished for that fact.

So don't marry someone who will go off the deep end, start smoking crack, banging rappers and asking for a divorce. Believe it or not people like that do exist. Sure people change, but there is such a thing as probability.

And not having a prenup doesn't guarantee an unequal settlement.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: thatguy82

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123
if I feel the need to have a prenump, then I wouldnt be marrying her.
trust is everything.
divorce is not an option.

Noun 1. delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
delusion, psychotic belief - (psychology) an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary
megalomania - a psychological state characterized by delusions of grandeur

I think we have delusions of mediocrity here not even grandeur

my complete trust in my wife is not based on how powerful or influential I am. we chose each other because we both indeed have the same convictions about marriage being a sacred committment until death. We dated for almost 10 years before marriage, and have absolute trust in each other. If it wasnt so we would not have married.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: thatguy82

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123
if I feel the need to have a prenump, then I wouldnt be marrying her.
trust is everything.
divorce is not an option.

Noun 1. delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
delusion, psychotic belief - (psychology) an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary
megalomania - a psychological state characterized by delusions of grandeur

I think we have delusions of mediocrity here not even grandeur

my complete trust in my wife is not based on how powerful or influential I am. we chose each other because we both indeed have the same convictions about marriage being a sacred committment until death. We dated for almost 10 years before marriage, and have absolute trust in each other. If it wasnt so we would not have married.

How long have you been married? Why did you decide to get married after all of that time. One reason I'm asking are all the stories about people who've lived happily together for years, gotten married and then divorced. I suppose being married makes estate planning easier.

(You don't need to respond if this is too personal)

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

The factors that cause Divorce are too emotionally charged to predict the actions of those involved. People don't Divorce casually, it is usually after some trauma, such as Infidelity. If people were able to Predict such things, they wouldn't be getting a Divorce in the first place.

So knowing how someone reacts under extreme pressure is impossible too?

It's not merely "extreme" pressure, it's Personal.

Still perfectly possible to know them that well. Maybe they've already had personal problems in the past. Maybe the couple has had personal problems in the past and gotten over them. The list goes on.

We can go round and round with these hypotheticals and qualifications all night. Point is I believe and in a couple of cases (family) know that it is possible to know someone on an extremely personal level like that. Maybe it's not a universal ability. Probably some combination of nature and nurture like everything else, but it's possible. If you or anyone else needs a prenup to feel secure, more power to you if you can find a good wife who will agree to that. Personally I think it just shows a lack of confidence in one's abilities and lack of trust in one's partner.

 

[zerocool84]

See this is why I tell people that both parties in a relationship NEED to have their lives set and careers set BEFORE marriage and you'd have none of this. Divorce would drop significantly but people just marry cus "it's the right thing to do" and if you're not married by a certain age you're a failure.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
See this is why I tell people that both parties in a relationship NEED to have their lives set and careers set BEFORE marriage and you'd have none of this. Divorce would drop significantly but people just marry cus "it's the right thing to do" and if you're not married by a certain age you're a failure.

And furthermore, the poor examples set by celebrities influence people in ways they may not be aware of.

 

[FelixDeCat]

So you are trying to tell me atheists dont sign prenups? They dont believe in those either?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
See this is why I tell people that both parties in a relationship NEED to have their lives set and careers set BEFORE marriage and you'd have none of this. Divorce would drop significantly but people just marry cus "it's the right thing to do" and if you're not married by a certain age you're a failure.

People are getting smart. You dont HAVE to be married to be considered a success. The company is nice, however.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: mchammer187
I wouldn't ever ask for a prenup. I also wouldn't propose if there was any doubt in my mind though. Most marriages fail because the two should not have ever gotten married in the first place and there are usually signs of this.

Ah yes, to be young and naive. I miss those days...

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: thatguy82

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123
if I feel the need to have a prenump, then I wouldnt be marrying her.
trust is everything.
divorce is not an option.

Noun 1. delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
delusion, psychotic belief - (psychology) an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary
megalomania - a psychological state characterized by delusions of grandeur

I think we have delusions of mediocrity here not even grandeur

my complete trust in my wife is not based on how powerful or influential I am. we chose each other because we both indeed have the same convictions about marriage being a sacred committment until death. We dated for almost 10 years before marriage, and have absolute trust in each other. If it wasnt so we would not have married.

How long have you been married? Why did you decide to get married after all of that time. One reason I'm asking are all the stories about people who've lived happily together for years, gotten married and then divorced. I suppose being married makes estate planning easier.

(You don't need to respond if this is too personal)

we've been married 6 years. in fact it was all planned out as a timely goal.
the delay was to allow us each to finish our bachelors, find permanent employment, and save towards our goal of home owership. the fastest method of reaching this was to delay marriage a few more years and continue to live at home, instead of early marriage and long period of renting which would slow our savings ability.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: zerocool84
See this is why I tell people that both parties in a relationship NEED to have their lives set and careers set BEFORE marriage and you'd have none of this. Divorce would drop significantly but people just marry cus "it's the right thing to do" and if you're not married by a certain age you're a failure.

People are getting smart. You dont HAVE to be married to be considered a success. The company is nice, however.

If it wasn't for the need for a government recognized marriage in so many cases, I would of performed the ceremony myself as a private, two person event.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: zerocool84
See this is why I tell people that both parties in a relationship NEED to have their lives set and careers set BEFORE marriage and you'd have none of this. Divorce would drop significantly but people just marry cus "it's the right thing to do" and if you're not married by a certain age you're a failure.

People are getting smart. You dont HAVE to be married to be considered a success. The company is nice, however.

I agree. It makes me wonder if the institution of marriage needs to be severely analyzed or discarded in favor of a more applicable relationship instrument.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: zerocool84
See this is why I tell people that both parties in a relationship NEED to have their lives set and careers set BEFORE marriage and you'd have none of this. Divorce would drop significantly but people just marry cus "it's the right thing to do" and if you're not married by a certain age you're a failure.

People are getting smart. You dont HAVE to be married to be considered a success. The company is nice, however.

You don't have to be married to have the perfect company. Marriage doesn't change any relationship.

 

[imported_Lothar]

That's why you should marry someone who's better than you.
If you marry someone who's better than you are, you don't have to worry about signing pre-nups.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
If I had a prenup one stipulation would be for the woman to make me a sammich every morning and bring it to me in bed.

Are you going to tip her?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: zerocool84
If I had a prenup one stipulation would be for the woman to make me a sammich every morning and bring it to me in bed.

Are you going to tip her?

Hell na.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: zerocool84
If I had a prenup one stipulation would be for the woman to make me a sammich every morning and bring it to me in bed.

Are you going to tip her?

Sure, as long as she doesn't have a headache. Thats the first sign! :shocked:

 

[Xstatic1]

nah, limited-duration renewable contract.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Lothar
That's why you should marry someone who's better than you.
If you marry someone who's better than you are, you don't have to worry about signing pre-nups.

Better and richer are not always the same thing. You should be more specific.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Lothar
That's why you should marry someone who's better than you.
If you marry someone who's better than you are, you don't have to worry about signing pre-nups.

Better and richer are not always the same thing. You should be more specific.

Both.
Is that specific enough for ya?

 

[Pacfanweb]

Absolutely would get a prenup.

Getting one is simply smart business. And if the other truly loves you and expects the marriage to last, he/she will have no problem signing it.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Absolutely would get a prenup.

Getting one is simply smart business. And if the other truly loves you and expects the marriage to last, he/she will have no problem signing it.

The argument could just as easily be made that if you thought the other truly loved you, one wouldn't be needed.

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I haven't seen any response to the previous post about how the people who support prenups would feel if they were asked to sign one...

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: zerocool84
If I had a prenup one stipulation would be for the woman to make me a sammich every morning and bring it to me in bed.

Are you going to tip her?

Just the tip-her.