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JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
30,160
3,302
126
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
What is more valuable to you - losing the partner of your dreams or losing half your assets? We all know things change once the rings are on and ham sammiches dont make them themselves. So I would do it, or stay single.

live with girlfriend FTW!
all of the benefits, none of the downsides
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
36,041
472
126
If I had a prenup one stipulation would be for the woman to make me a sammich every morning and bring it to me in bed.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,568
3
0
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,130
5,658
126
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,568
3
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.

Overgeneralize much?

Edit: Timewarp
 

TruePaige

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2006
9,878
2
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.

That's not always true, either. Some people peacefully divide their assets and go their separate ways.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,130
5,658
126
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.

That's not always true, either. Some people peacefully divide their assets and go their separate ways.

It's rare, but you can not Predict who will or who will not beforehand.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,568
3
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.

That's not always true, either. Some people peacefully divide their assets and go their separate ways.

It's rare, but you can not Predict who will or who will not beforehand.

Yes you can. It's called knowing people and continuing to know them as they change. It's a very abstract analog concept, but it works. It also requires a divergence from the binary thought patterns many on this forum express.

No I can't predict things down to a timeline of specific events, but there is something known as "knowing a person's character".
 

thegimp03

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2004
7,426
2
81
I would unless she was on near-equal financial ground with me, then it wouldn't really matter if we split.
 

bobdole369

Diamond Member
Dec 15, 2004
4,504
2
0
a mill is enough for me to safeguard my mill. Of course I'm the type of guy who wouldn't loan his car to his mom, cuz she isn't on the insurance though.
 

Ronstang

Lifer
Jul 8, 2000
12,493
18
81
The only people that you will usually find denouncing pre-nups are those who have nothing to loose. I was in this situation about 17 years ago. She hit me with all kinds of bull and argued and argued how evil I was if I wanted a pre-nup but I had tons and she had nothing. I got the ring back too. Best decision I ever made. I know plenty of people who had hugely disproportionate assets when they got married. Strangely it was the women with nothing who usually suggested the pre-nup as a way for the man to protect himself. I guess those women were keepers as those people are all still married.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,130
5,658
126
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.

That's not always true, either. Some people peacefully divide their assets and go their separate ways.

It's rare, but you can not Predict who will or who will not beforehand.

Yes you can. It's called knowing people and continuing to know them as they change. It's a very abstract analog concept, but it works. It also requires a divergence from the binary thought patterns many on this forum express.

No I can't predict things down to a timeline of specific events, but there is something known as "knowing a person's character".

You're dreaming.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,568
3
0
Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?
 

TruePaige

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2006
9,878
2
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: irishScott
I pity you if you are so automatically suspicious of people. You seem to expect people to screw you over and stab you in the back, even people you'd trust enough to marry (although from a certain perspective you wouldn't trust them at all). People don't spontaneously change from one extreme to the other barring some mental condition bordering on schizophrenia. I can think of 10 chicks off the top of my head whom I would say have a 90+% chance of never going the route you described. Set your sights beyond the ghetto and frat/sorority whores please.

Marriage is a matter of trust and faith (not necessarily religious) as well as knowledge. If I trust someone enough to marry them, by that point we'll know each other so well and be so prepared it'll be ridiculous.

They don't have to consciously think about "screwing you over". It could be as simple as, for any of a myriad of reasons, in ten or fifteen years you no longer get along at all and choose to move on with your lives.

At this point, your entire financial well being depends on whether she voluntarily turns down what is legally hers (half of the marital assets plus alimony in many cases). Good luck with that, especially taking into account whatever reason you no longer get along.

Well then I'll make sure I marry a reasonable person who doesn't have any desire to rape me if it does come to divorce.

Impossible. When people Divorce, emotions are high, and People are not thinking straight.

That's not always true, either. Some people peacefully divide their assets and go their separate ways.

It's rare, but you can not Predict who will or who will not beforehand.

Yes you can. It's called knowing people and continuing to know them as they change. It's a very abstract analog concept, but it works. It also requires a divergence from the binary thought patterns many on this forum express.

No I can't predict things down to a timeline of specific events, but there is something known as "knowing a person's character".

You're dreaming.

It's true, you both should be versatile, and you should know their personality well enough to understand their changing needs and the same applies in the reverse.

A good couple should not let their raging emotions control them, they should let their sensibility and devotion guide them.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
12,007
572
126
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Prenup yes. If she balks, then you know she's a gold digger. Screw the argument "well if YOU really loved me, you wouldn't be worried about your money!"

Sorry, but in this day and age it's every man for himself.

Well, I think what you're really saying is that you don't trust her. It's as simple as that.

You can't fault women for getting huffy when you tell them you don't trust them to their face.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,311
2,100
126
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Prenup yes. If she balks, then you know she's a gold digger. Screw the argument "well if YOU really loved me, you wouldn't be worried about your money!"

Sorry, but in this day and age it's every man for himself.

Well, I think what you're really saying is that you don't trust her. It's as simple as that.

You can't fault women for getting huffy when you tell them you don't trust them to their face.

And by saying 'no' she is saying she doesnt trust me.
 

thegimp03

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2004
7,426
2
81
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Prenup yes. If she balks, then you know she's a gold digger. Screw the argument "well if YOU really loved me, you wouldn't be worried about your money!"

Sorry, but in this day and age it's every man for himself.

Well, I think what you're really saying is that you don't trust her. It's as simple as that.

You can't fault women for getting huffy when you tell them you don't trust them to their face.

What's the point of trust if she's marrying you to take half your assets? Isn't there something wrong with that? The way things are now, divorce is so commonplace that if either person in a relationship had significantly more money than their future spouse, not getting a prenup is retarded.
 

TruePaige

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2006
9,878
2
0
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Prenup yes. If she balks, then you know she's a gold digger. Screw the argument "well if YOU really loved me, you wouldn't be worried about your money!"

Sorry, but in this day and age it's every man for himself.

Well, I think what you're really saying is that you don't trust her. It's as simple as that.

You can't fault women for getting huffy when you tell them you don't trust them to their face.

And by saying 'no' she is saying she doesnt trust me.

Well you are telling them that instead of building a future you both can rely on that you have the same good future no matter what and she isn't guaranteed the same.

Can you blame someone for being upset? You could completely drop the ball and your spouse could have to pack up and leave with little to no recourse.
 

TruePaige

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2006
9,878
2
0
Originally posted by: thegimp03
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Prenup yes. If she balks, then you know she's a gold digger. Screw the argument "well if YOU really loved me, you wouldn't be worried about your money!"

Sorry, but in this day and age it's every man for himself.

Well, I think what you're really saying is that you don't trust her. It's as simple as that.

You can't fault women for getting huffy when you tell them you don't trust them to their face.

What's the point of trust if she's marrying you to take half your assets? Isn't there something wrong with that? The way things are now, divorce is so commonplace that if either person in a relationship had significantly more money than their future spouse, not getting a prenup is retarded.

What's the point of getting married if you can't trust that she isn't in it to take half your assets?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,130
5,658
126
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

The factors that cause Divorce are too emotionally charged to predict the actions of those involved. People don't Divorce casually, it is usually after some trauma, such as Infidelity. If people were able to Predict such things, they wouldn't be getting a Divorce in the first place.
 

TruePaige

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2006
9,878
2
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

The factors that cause Divorce are too emotionally charged to predict the actions of those involved. People don't Divorce casually, it is usually after some trauma, such as Infidelity. If people were able to Predict such things, they wouldn't be getting a Divorce in the first place.

I've only known one couple that divorced in a civil manner, but it was an ideal way to end things.

Stay together and sell the house, split the cash, and go their separate ways.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,568
3
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

The factors that cause Divorce are too emotionally charged to predict the actions of those involved. People don't Divorce casually, it is usually after some trauma, such as Infidelity. If people were able to Predict such things, they wouldn't be getting a Divorce in the first place.

So knowing how someone reacts under extreme pressure is impossible too?
 
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