You Are Witnessing The Beginning Of A Mass Shooting,..

[EMPshockwave82]

Just run. If I was 20-30 feet with cover then I would try to draw and return. Cover first.

 

[mistercrabby]

Triple ripple, baby. Two center mass and one in the forehead.

 

[BoomerD]

Did you not read the part about bystanders on the other side of the shooter. Only lazers would be any good in that situation.

Fuck the bystanders...collateral damage...and adds to your kill count. :thumbsup:

 

[MongGrel]

NM

 

[MongGrel]

This is the delusional theory put out there by the NRA and REPUBLICANS.
That ANYONE would have the common sense and or calm nature to react logically.
Where in all reality, a world the NRA and REPUBLICAN party know little of, the shock, confusion, inability to grasp what is actually happening would not matter.
One could have as many guns on their person as the maniac shooter, and stand there frozen with the odds being they too would become a victim shot by the maniac with a gun.

The shooter spent a lot of time devising his plot to kill.
The innocent bystander has exactly zero warning and zero time to react to the unfolding events of death.
Only, ONLY one with highly professional military training AND very recent military involvement would (might) have the ability to react.
Everyone else with a gun? All the Matt Dillon's out there? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL.
YOU too, would be shot and killed by the maniac with a gun.

Do you feel lucky? Well... do you?

Lots of this.

 

[notposting]

Probably good to remember that even hitting the protection is going to make an impact.

It's a kevlar vest, not a damn forcefield. If someone gets a couple rounds on target it is going to make the bad guys day a lot more interesting.

 

[pontifex]

I would have a Glock or 1911 with hollow points. One shot, one kill.

Hollow points are the last thing you want in this situation. Less penetration.

 

[mistercrabby]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportage This is the delusional theory put out there by the NRA and REPUBLICANS. That ANYONE would have the common sense and or calm nature to react logically. Where in all reality, a world the NRA and REPUBLICAN party know little of, the shock, confusion, inability to grasp what is actually happening would not matter. One could have as many guns on their person as the maniac shooter, and stand there frozen with the odds being they too would become a victim shot by the maniac with a gun. The shooter spent a lot of time devising his plot to kill. The innocent bystander has exactly zero warning and zero time to react to the unfolding events of death. Only, ONLY one with highly professional military training AND very recent military involvement would (might) have the ability to react. Everyone else with a gun? All the Matt Dillon's out there? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. YOU too, would be shot and killed by the maniac with a gun. Do you feel lucky? Well... do you? Lots of this.

*sniff, sniff... smells like pussy*

If you aren't armed, then do your best to get yourself and your loved ones out of harms way.

Keeping to the spirit of the OP, if you are armed you can either choose to respond to the threat or let the unarmed victims meet their fate as you give them your posterior...

 

[Fenixgoon]

personally, i think few of us really know what we'd do in this situation. all of this is armchair quarterbacking to make us look good or feel better about ourselves.

it's like someone sig that says "of course i'd legsweep him and crush him. typical atot tough guy"

 

[Nebor]

This is quite helpful, thank you, and common sense frankly.

I would have reacted badly (empty out my gun and probably hit a few people in error).

If NYC ever allows CC, I would hope there is at least a mandatory training course that teaches the bolded point - as much as it sounds like common sense, I never thought of it, since I would get caught up in trying to stop this guy. Total thoughtlessness on my part.

Quick question, in states where CC is allowed, is there some sort of training course(s) required in order to obtain a permit? Or general training?

There are concealed carry permits in NYC. There is no classroom training required to obtain one.

 

[notposting]

personally, i think few of us really know what we'd do in this situation. all of this is armchair quarterbacking to make us look good or feel better about ourselves.

it's like someone sig that says "of course i'd legsweep him and crush him. typical atot tough guy"

I think many of us (probably older) know enough about ourselves and our abilities to have an idea.

Make the scenario better. Let's go with unarmed. Unarmed, open ground, cuckoo with cocoa puffs blazing away? Yeah, just consider anything past the next 30 seconds to be a gift from God/Allah/FSM/Science/ATOT/whatever.

Look around the plaza/mall/park. Mom with her kids there. Those damn teenagers on their skateboards. Cranky old lady. Gramps with his walker. The middle aged polo wearing guys. Basically every slice of Americana in fear and danger because of some dipshit.

In that case, helping others get out of the way is probably where I'd be at. Possibly chucking some damn rocks at the shooter if that's what it takes. Heck, you notice a lot of these mass shooters turn the guns on themselves as soon as they encounter resistance.

Win or lose, live or die, go out fighting and helping, not as one of the cowards who ran away and let everyone die.


(Note: this is not to imply that when the first shots ring out, going flat and doing a quick head/tummy/nuts check wouldn't be in order. Followed by some sort of a holy shit! moment while working out something like a piss poor plan most likely modeled after a Die Hard movie or something.)

(edit: I have a short temper. Rather than run away, I'm most likely going to get effin PISSED at whoever is ruining my day and want some vengeance. Eye of the Tiger will start playing in my head, replaced suddenly by a terrible mashup of themes and music from Backyardigans, Chuck & Friends, Thomas the Tank Engine, Shaun the Sheep, Timmy Time, Veggietales, and so forth. A red blood lust will come before my eyes and the shooter will face an unprecedented wrath at that point.)

 

[MongGrel]

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