There is zero reason for anyone to own something whose sole purpose is to bring about the death of others. ZERO.
I'll try and tell my heartstrings kids being executed like this is just a statistic like any other..
Gangs which use guns. They aren't going around beating 10,000 people to death a year with their bare hands.
This is a bigger problem than mentally ill people with guns. It is a problem with ANYONE having a gun. Because a gun turns ANYONE into a weapon of mass destruction.
There is zero reason for anyone to own something whose sole purpose is to bring about the death of others. ZERO.
Add to that a huge recreational shooting and sport shooting market.Only if "others" means other creatures.
Guns have lots of purposes other than "bring about the death of others."
- Hunting
- Defending your home and your life
- Collectors
- Preventing death, in the hands of police or citizens, both as a direct means (shooting someone about to kill 5 people) or as a deterrent (I don't think I'll break into this house, they might have a gun)
what happened to you to be so afraid of guns and think that anyone with a gun wants to become a mass murderer? I'm being serious. where did this thought come from?
I almost feel sorry for you, almost.Gun owners are typically nutjobs. They act like we live in 1800 where "we have to protect ourselves from the big bad wolf outside".
It is 2012. We have incredibly advanced science and technology today. We have sent people to the moon. We have people floating in space 350km above our heads.
Yet for some reason there are nutjobs out there who insist on some kind of animalistic world where if someone steals a loaf of bread from you then you have a right to kill them. They think the solution to too many guns is to give even more guns to those who don't have one.
At the end of the day, humans are social creatures and we can only prosper as a community. Guns only exist to take away lives (of creatures, humans, etc) and destroy those communities.
Yes you can "practice" with them, but what are you practicing for? The zombie apocalypse?
Yes you can "practice" with them, but what are you practicing for? The zombie apocalypse?
Yes you can "practice" with them, but what are you practicing for? The zombie apocalypse?
Out of respect for those who suffered on this terrible, tragic day I say to you "go fuck yourself", your an arrogant little child, nothing more..Please do.
Homicide rate per 100,000 people:
Honduras 91.6
El Salvador 69.2
Côte d'Ivoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
U.S. Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.3
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
United States 4.2
Gun owners are typically nutjobs. They act like we live in 1800 where "we have to protect ourselves from the big bad wolf outside".
It is 2012. We have incredibly advanced science and technology today. We have sent people to the moon. We have people floating in space 350km above our heads.
Yet for some reason there are nutjobs out there who insist on some kind of animalistic world where if someone steals a loaf of bread from you then you have a right to kill them. They think the solution to too many guns is to give even more guns to those who don't have one.
At the end of the day, humans are social creatures and we can only prosper as a community. Guns only exist to take away lives (of creatures, humans, etc) and destroy those communities.
Yes you can "practice" with them, but what are you practicing for? The zombie apocalypse?
Out of respect for those who suffered on this terrible, tragic day I say to you "go fuck yourself", your an arrogant little child, nothing more..
What meaning does your supposed sympathy for these children have?
I, too, of course think it's a horrible tragedy and the guy was a sick, twisted piece of shit. It's an absolutely horrible event.
But you and I aren't directly connected to it or anyone involved in it.
So what importance, impact, or significance does you wringing your hands and shit on some message board have? Is it just you grand standing and taking the supposed moral high ground? Does the fact that you are trying to use their deaths for political agendas you had prior to it happening reduce the merits of your supposed sympathies? I'd say it sure as shit does.
I don't feel the need to make some big show of my grief for strangers I've never met. I feel the appropriate amount of sympathy and grief, which is to say a fairly low and abstract amount. In the abstract, it's absolutely horrible. Could I sit around on the couch with a box of Kleenex watching Nancy Grace or something as she shows pictures of the kids and cries her crocodile tears? Of course I could.
If I did that, I'd feel like I was basically feasting on the carcass of other peoples' grief. Using it to fuel my own self-centered "grief orgy" - and why? I have no idea.
The media is a big part of the problem with things like this. They feed in to sick peoples' sick desires to gain infamy by doing shit like this.
And then they turn around and feed into other weird peoples' desire to do some sort of grief-fueled emotional masturbation.
The people who know the parents directly, their extended family and those in their community, or people who don't know them but live near them and see them at the store, and extend offers of emotional support, help with funeral costs, "call me if you need anything" who make sure they don't spend too much time alone, or at least no time alone they don't WISH to spend, and try to help them recover form the grief of this... those people have my utmost respect.
Strangers in some other state or country who make some big spectacle of their "grief" and sympathy? And using it to push political desires and to try to silence other people pushing back against that, or use it as a conversational leverage to guilt trip others into changing their views or whatever? They can suck it.
20 fucking kids were killed... in seconds. Honestly, if you had half a fucking brain you'd shut the fuck up about gun rights now.
In short, fuck off.
That is the dumbest argument ever, and all gun supporters use it. The difference is one product is DESIGNED to kill people, the other is not.
And as I said, I'm not for banning guns. I'm for putting the same regulations on them as we have on other products that AREN'T designed to kill people.
Better yet, maybe you should try selling your bullshit diatribe to one of the parents of a child who was murdered today.
No, you would have gotten stabbed or gotten your lib head cut off.
I honestly don't give a shit about guns, but I need one because criminals have them. Take them from the criminals FIRST, and I might be more amenable to the prospect. Don't fucking leave me defenseless while any two bit thug can break into my house with a black market piece and blow me away. Too hard to take them away from the criminals? Tough shit. Try harder. I support gun control laws that work solely to that end.
I think all questions of law and politics should be determined by finding the most emotionally compromised person on that particular issue in the country and then asking them what they think. Whether it's someone who was just raped, burglarized, lost their mother in a car wreck, you name it. They are clearly the most appropriate source for sober, rational thinking.
Btw do you honestly believe not a single gun owner was among the parents?
Switzerland------0.7
Sorry, the "emotionally compromised" in this instance would be almost any human being with any sense of how horrible this is for so many people, those brutally slaughtered at 5yrs old and the parents who must now find a way to pick up the pieces and try and move on...