You don't know slow... (C-70 APU, Win10 64-bit)

[VirtualLarry]

Well, I figured I'd fix up my NanoPCs to sell off, finally. I threw in a VisionTek 120GB SSD, and installed Win10 1511.

Well, that went pretty uneventfully, but there's something interesting.

Windows 10 has so much background processing, that AT IDLE, it uses 99% of the dual-core APU. No joke.

Edit: Quite a while later, it settled down, after apps, updates, video driver updates, etc.
Also, I went into settings, and disabled all of the "background apps" that I could.

So now it's sitting at around 10-15% CPU usage at idle. Not horrible, but still a tad high.

 

[deasd]

I ditch win10 even using i3-3220 with 8G RAM. Get used to it, Microsoft doesn't know what it is doing.

 

[Charlie98]

Seems like you could turn some of that crap off. I installed W10 on my old 2-core AMD laptop and it worked pretty well... better than I had anticipated, and only with 4GB RAM.

 

[MustISO]

I've had decent luck with SSDs and Windows 10 but there is a ton of crap going on in the background that can slow a system down. The laptops I've used with mechanical drives and Win 10 have been horrible. It gets better if you can disable as much of the optional crap but still slow on the systems I've used.

 

[XavierMace]

Blaming Windows for pegging that CPU is like blaming a bicycle for not keeping up with a car.

 

[ashetos]

I got the C-50 on Windows 8.1 if you want to talk about slow! When Windows decide to do "maintenance" or "automatic virus scan" you suffer. What is impressive is that I get perfectly smooth 1080p H.264 playback with Media Player Classic Homecinema though.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The usage comes from .net generation. As you discovered it goes away.

What is the clock when it idles?

Windows 10 uses 2% on my i3 6100U while it runs 500Mhz. Or something equal to 40Mhz Skylake single core.

 

[Charlie98]

Blaming Windows for pegging that CPU is like blaming a bicycle for not keeping up with a car.

Well... that's kind of a dumb statement. Following that logic, you should have to upgrade your PC every time you upgrade the OS? In my example, a 2-core AMD laptop (as built) with 1GB RAM ran fine with XP; while it works with W10, it's not nearly as fast... and this is with an SSD (vs the as built HDD with XP) and 4GB RAM, and is almost constantly under CPU load... where with XP at least the CPU stopped and took a rest once in a while.

 

[monstercameron]

Ubuntu man, low clocked dual cores don't work well under win10

 

[TheELF]

Well... that's kind of a dumb statement. Following that logic, you should have to upgrade your PC every time you upgrade the OS? In my example, a 2-core AMD laptop (as built) with 1GB RAM ran fine with XP; while it works with W10, it's not nearly as fast... and this is with an SSD (vs the as built HDD with XP) and 4GB RAM, and is almost constantly under CPU load... where with XP at least the CPU stopped and took a rest once in a while.

Yeah well,maybe you don't have to update with every new OS, but you could do it once in every ~20years... (What was it, early 2000 that XP came out? )

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Yeah well,maybe you don't have to update with every new OS, but you could do it once in every ~20years... (What was it, early 2000 that XP came out? )

Windows ME came out in about 2000. It was the beta for XP! Of course, Microsoft still charged full price to allow you to participate in their beta.

 

[jhu]

Big deal. My FX8350 has 24 GiB of RAM amd is running FreeBSD 10.2. Most of the time it uses 4 MiB of memory and idles at 0.1%.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Well, I figured I'd fix up my NanoPCs to sell off, finally. I threw in a VisionTek 120GB SSD, and installed Win10 1511.

Well, that went pretty uneventfully, but there's something interesting.

I've said it on multiple occasions. Windows x64 and Brazos does not play nice together. You can try the x86 version, it should run better on such low powered hardware.

Windows ME came out in about 2000. It was the beta for XP! Of course, Microsoft still charged full price to allow you to participate in their beta.

ME certainly wasn't the beta for XP, it was the last of the Win 9x line. Buggy and unstable as (insert your favourite strong language here) though.

 

[dark zero]

I got the C-50 on Windows 8.1 if you want to talk about slow! When Windows decide to do "maintenance" or "automatic virus scan" you suffer. What is impressive is that I get perfectly smooth 1080p H.264 playback with Media Player Classic Homecinema though.

AMD E1 2100 is far worse... it can even lags on an NES emulator on Windows XP with 2 gigs of RAM. I quickly tested the VIA C3 and it was way smoother than the E1...

 

[ashetos]

AMD E1 2100 is far worse... it can even lags on an NES emulator on Windows XP with 2 gigs of RAM. I quickly tested the VIA C3 and it was way smoother than the E1...

Isn't that like the exact same chip as C-50, only newer silicon?

Edit: wrong, it's jaguar
Edit2: should be faster than bobcat

 

[dark zero]

Isn't that like the exact same chip as C-50, only newer silicon?

Edit: wrong, it's jaguar
Edit2: should be faster than bobcat

It should, but is not since it was made on very badly made waffers.

 

[XavierMace]

Well... that's kind of a dumb statement. Following that logic, you should have to upgrade your PC every time you upgrade the OS? In my example, a 2-core AMD laptop (as built) with 1GB RAM ran fine with XP

Not as dumb as expecting a computer to keep running the newest software forever. Even more so if it was a low end system to begin with.

Every time I see people complaining about some program not running well on their ancient computer I just shake my head. Not saying Larry has these expectations, but the C-70 was a basically bottom of the barrel processor when it came out 4 years ago.

 

[SPBHM]

my Athlon 64 X2 at 2.4GHz feels pretty normal to use on Windows 10 x64, I don't think it's any worse than using win8.1 or win7.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Well, I figured I'd fix up my NanoPCs to sell off, finally. I threw in a VisionTek 120GB SSD, and installed Win10 1511.

Well, that went pretty uneventfully, but there's something interesting.

Windows 10 has so much background processing, that AT IDLE, it uses 99% of the dual-core APU. No joke.

Edit: Quite a while later, it settled down, after apps, updates, video driver updates, etc.
Also, I went into settings, and disabled all of the "background apps" that I could.

So now it's sitting at around 10-15% CPU usage at idle. Not horrible, but still a tad high.

This is why you shouldn't buy junk. It's cheap upfront but doesn't hold up well at all. Buy good stuff and it will remain fast for a long time and you won't have to buy new stuff for a while.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ubuntu man, low clocked dual cores don't work well under win10

Well, they were running Linux Mint 17.2. Around 40-50% CPU usage at idle. Scrolling (using the open-source drivers) was far less smooth and less "snappy" than Win10 or Win7.

"mate-panel" uses 25% CPU all the time.

 

[VirtualLarry]

This is why you shouldn't buy junk. It's cheap upfront but doesn't hold up well at all. Buy good stuff and it will remain fast for a long time and you won't have to buy new stuff for a while.

It wasn't so bad when I first got it. I actually ran Skype and web-browsed on it at the same time, and for a while it was my HTPC, except for the fact that it was "eating" SSDs. (Due to thermal issues - it's completely passively cooled.)

I should have picked up the 1.1Ghz Celeron 847 version, but I missed out on that one.

But I agree, it didn't age well. My Z3735F laptop and tablets are faster. But not the MeegoPad T02, because it throttles down to 0.49Ghz, which is slower than the 1.00Ghz of the C-70.

 

[monstercameron]

Well, they were running Linux Mint 17.2. Around 40-50% CPU usage at idle. Scrolling (using the open-source drivers) was far less smooth and less "snappy" than Win10 or Win7.

"mate-panel" uses 25% CPU all the time.

Lxde is a good fit

 

[mxnerd]

I have a AMD E-350 system that uses over 90% all the time running nothing and I threw it in the trash.

Never another AMD system.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I'm surprised you're ethically ok with selling these to somebody for, like, actual money.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I have a AMD E-350 system that uses over 90% all the time running nothing and I threw it in the trash.

Never another AMD system.

That's not a fault with AMD, it's just the nature of low end hardware.