You get five minutes to escape a nuclear blast, what will you do?

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angminas

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That wikihow article is not bad overall, but I don't like how it assumes all nukes are the same size. If you hear your city is getting nuked, knowing the size and location of the detonation would make a massive difference in how you'd react to it. Not that that would actually happen, but that's what this thread is about.
 

SKORPI0

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https://www.orau.org/ptp/Library/cdv/Survival Under Atomic Attack.pdf (32 page booklet)

Six Survival Secrets For Atomic Attacks (16, 17)

Always Put First Things First And (16)

1. Try To Get Shielded If you have time, get down in a basement or subway. Should you unexpectedly be caught out-of-doors, seek shelter alongside a building, or jump in any handy ditch or gutter.
2. Drop Flat On Ground Or Floor To keep from being tossed about and to lessen the chances of being struck by falling and flying objects, flatten out at the base of a wall, or at the bottom of a bank.
3. Bury Your Face In Your Arms When you drop flat, hide your eyes in the crook of your elbow. That will protect your face from flash burns, prevent temporary blindness and keep flying objects out of your eyes.

Never Lose Your Head And (17)


4. Don't Rush Outside Right After A Bombing After an air burst, wait a few minutes then go help to fight fires. After other kinds of bursts wait at least 1 hour to give lingering radiation some chance to die down.
5. Don't Take Chances With Food Or Water In Open Containers To prevent radioactive poisoning or disease, select your food and water with care. When there is reason to believe they may be contaminated, stick to canned and bottled things if possible.
6. Don't Start Rumors In the confusion that follows a bombing, a single rumor might touch off a panic that could cost your life.

Five Keys To Household Safety (18)


1. Strive For "Fireproof Housekeeping"Don't let trash pile up, and keep waste paper in covered containers. When an alert sounds, do all you can to eliminate sparks by shutting off the oil burner and covering all open flames.
2. Know Your Own HomeKnow which is the safest part of your cellar, learn how to turn off your oil burner and what to do about utilities.
3. Have Emergency Equipment And Supplies HandyAlways have a good flashlight, a radio, first-aid equipment and a supply of canned goods in the house.
4. Close All Windows And Doors And Draw The BlindsIf you have time when an alert sounds, close the house up tight in order to keep out fire sparks and radioactive dusts and to lessen the chances of being cut by flying glass. Keep the house closed until all danger is past.
5. Use the Telephone Only For True EmergenciesDo not use the phone unless absolutely necessary. Leave the lines open for real emergency traffic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_Under_Atomic_Attack

https://archive.org/details/Survival1951


http://www.ameshistory.org/exhibits/events/atomic_attack_plan.htm
 

jlee

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A long time after the EMP

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/vehicles.html
The U.S. EMP Commission tested a number of cars and trucks. Although this was the most comprehensive set of tests on vehicles that has been done, those tests were very poorly done because the Commission was financially responsible for the vehicles, but did not have the funding to pay for any of the vehicles they tested. The vehicles were borrowed from other government agencies (most vehicles came from the Department of Defense); and the vehicles had to be returned to those lending agencies in good condition.

Those vehicles were tested up to the level that some sort of upset occurred, then further testing was stopped on that vehicle. In most cases, after the initial upset occurred, the vehicle could be restarted. In most of the remaining cases where the vehicle could not be immediately restarted, a latch-up had occurred in the electronics, and the battery could be momentarily disconnected to "re-boot" the electronics, and the vehicle could then be restarted. This temporary electronic latch-up failure mode caused by EMP is something that almost never occurs in automobiles during a typical lifetime of operation.
and
Automobiles were subjected to EMP environments under both engine turned off and engine turned on conditions. No effects were subsequently observed in those automobiles that were not turned on during EMP exposure.

If anything, disconnect/reconnect battery and go.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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That wikihow article is not bad overall, but I don't like how it assumes all nukes are the same size. If you hear your city is getting nuked, knowing the size and location of the detonation would make a massive difference in how you'd react to it. Not that that would actually happen, but that's what this thread is about.

What, you think the bomber is going to phone your state and tell them?
 

Rebel44

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My workplace was built during Cold War as an important part of infrastructure (main phone exchange in this country), so we have very very good fallout shelter.
 

MongGrel

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ussfletcher

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I run through this scenario pretty often, basically my response is dictated by the lead time I have and the method through which I find out. In this case I'd probably chance it driving away from the city as quickly as I could.

If say, there was say a 30 minute warning and I found out over the TV with everyone else I'd start preparing some emergency supplies and head to my car and move it to the lowest level in the parking garage and camp out in there.

If I had 30 minutes and I was one of a select few that knew ahead of time I'd quickly grab some supplies and shove them in a backpack, run to my car and speed away as quickly as possible, driving as far west as possible.

Basically though, if everyone finds out at once you are trapped. People will flood the freeways and no one will get anywhere. So you are better off trying to build yourself a shelter in your dwelling and preparing supplies.
 

jlee

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Nuclear electromagnetic pulse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse


Might not affect a lot of cars, still, it's not like I'm making plans if it happens in reality to be honest.

And I live right across the bay from Cent Com

Still more worried about my roof getting a leak than a Nuke, personally on a daily basis.

yup.
Common misconceptions:
Cars dying: Some say that all vehicles traveling will come to a halt, with all modern vehicles damaged because of their use of modern electronics (and one movie even had a bulk, non-electronic part dying). Most likely there will be some vehicles affected, but probably just a small fraction of them (although this could create traffic jams in large cities). A car does not have very long cabling to act as antennas, and there is some protection from metallic construction. As non-metallic materials are used more and more in the future to decrease weight and increase fuel efficiency, this advantage may disappear.

If Phoenix has a nuke inbound, I'm fucked. Too close to the airport/downtown.
 

Ruptga

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Find some alcohol and chill, try to go out with some dignity. Five minutes before detonation, panic, jump out a window. Fall four feet, realize everyone around me thinks I'm crazy; die of shame right before the bomb hits.
 

KLin

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Find some alcohol and chill, try to go out with some dignity. Five minutes before detonation, panic, jump out a window. Fall four feet, realize everyone around me thinks I'm crazy; die of shame right before the bomb hits.

rofl
 

HamburgerBoy

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My lab is on the top floor of our campus building, which is located maybe two miles away from downtown where I'd expect the epicenter to be. By the time I can run out of the building I'll only have a couple minutes to go anyways; there is one building with an urban legend of being a reconverted nuclear bunker from the 50s. I know it wasn't one, but hell, might be my best chance and there are cabinets to hide in. I'm probably dead no matter what though.

EDIT: Doing some quick Googling, I'm definitely fucked with a 100 kiloton bomb unless by some chance I happened to park in the closest parking lot instead of the further away parking garage, where I might just barely be able to floor it and miss the largest blast assuming some Hollywood-worthy blast evasion skills. I don't think I'd even survive a Fat Man.
 
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MongGrel

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Find some alcohol and chill, try to go out with some dignity. Five minutes before detonation, panic, jump out a window. Fall four feet, realize everyone around me thinks I'm crazy; die of shame right before the bomb hits.

:biggrin:
 
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You get a call from a friend in the military warning you that your city is about to get nuked in five minutes. You are at work at this time and you know your location will face 50% mortality rate at this distance. Your job is to escape being on the wrong side of this 50%.

Assume the nuke is a 100 kiloton yield bomb launched by a rogue state and try to figure out how you will try escaping from the explosion and its aftereffects?

What will you do?

Head for the basement or the manholes?

Try to drive out of the danger zone?

Give up immediately and die?
Don't waste time responding to silly posts like this? If you are in the blast radius then five minutes isn't enough to 'get away'.
 

james1701

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I stay in my basement office. Above us used to be the radiology department back in the 80's and everything above us is lead lined, and I am in the basement below it. Currently there is a cafe there, so I just need to try to tunnel through the ceiling, and viola, some food to sustain me for a little while.
 

sandorski

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The idea one can out drive a nuclear blast within 5 minutes is silly. Even with completely empty roads, no vehicle will have the capability of putting enough distance between the blast and the vehicle for the driver to escape.

You have 2 choices already mentioned:

1) Get outside to the highest most open place possible knowing that your death will be instantaneous.

2) Get as far underground as possible for the possibility of surviving.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Apr 12, 2004
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The idea one can out drive a nuclear blast within 5 minutes is silly. Even with completely empty roads, no vehicle will have the capability of putting enough distance between the blast and the vehicle for the driver to escape.

You have 2 choices already mentioned:

1) Get outside to the highest most open place possible knowing that your death will be instantaneous.

2) Get as far underground as possible for the possibility of surviving.

Why? If someone can get onto a freeway within a minute and travel at 100+ mph in the opposite direction of the blast, that still puts them around 6-7 miles away, and that's assuming the bomb is dropped directly on their starting point. It's not a very realistic scenario, but it's not a 100% impossibility.
 
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