You take a gun through airpost security and get on a plane. What would you do?

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Vic Vega

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How would they go back and check you're previous screenings? Granted it's been 2 years since I've flown, but even then, I just went through the metal detector. They didn't ask for ID or anything.

Lot's of people fly with checked firearms. I have, and other than taking an additional 5 minutes at the airport, it's not a difficult process.

Most major airports require a boarding pass and photo ID when traveling through security now... the only that don't are small, private airports. There are cameras all over the place and you can bet the screening devices store data for a period of time... if it went away instantly they wouldn't be able to use it as evidence later.

Whether people want to admit it or not, checking a firearm at an airport will put eyes on you.
 

JDMnAR1

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What - no option for videoing possession of said handgun on an airplane and posting to YouTube before you land?
 

RavenSEAL

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Jan 4, 2010
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Well, that depends...

Is this domestic or International? I've gotten screened when I've been to Mexico.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Diplomatic bag + whatever you want to put in it
Off you go. They are not allow to search a diplomatic bag. You can put a RPG in it and get on the plane
 

Squisher

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Someone who is carrying a gun casually enough that they forget they're carrying it is doing it wrong. As someone who carries as much as possible I'm supremely aware of my destinations and whether I'll be able to carry there. There are tons of places that don't allow carry and it's your responsibility to know that before hand. This isn't like your keys and wallet.

Pistol Free Areas

Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol on the following premises:

Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian

Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.

Sports arena or stadium

A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises

Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons

An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

A hospital

A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

A Casino

"Premises" does not include the parking areas of the places listed above.

A pistol is subject to immediate seizure if the CPL holder is carrying a pistol in a "pistol free" area. The pistol is only subject to seizure if the holder is carrying it concealed. The following penalties may also be imposed:
First offense: State Civil Infraction, $500 fine, CPL permit suspended 6 months
Second offense: 90-day misdemeanor, $1000 fine, CPL permit revoked
Third and subsequent offenses: 4-year felony, $5000 fine, CPL permit revoked
Furthermore, effective March 29, 2001, per Administrative Order 2001-1 of the Michigan Supreme Court:
"Weapons are not permitted in any courtroom, office, or other space used for official court business or by judicial employees unless the chief judge or other person designated by the chief judge has given prior approval consistent with the court's written policy."
 
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911paramedic

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Same. The worst thing you could do is let somebody know. You're on the plane, just keep it hidden and your bag close to you.
No shit. "Excuse me flight attendant, I have a gun..."

"He's got a guuuunnnnnn!!!!!"

I've thought about this ever since that story about the guy finding a gun under his seat that was left by an air marshal. There just doesn't seem to be any way to tell the flight crew that you have a firearm without them freaking out, especially with a note. "Don't be alarmed, but..."

I would just sit there and try to act normally. :whiste:
 

coldmeat

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The xray scanner things that check your carry on luggage only views your bag from one direction right? What if you stood the gun up in your bag so that when it passed through the xray it only looked like a stick of metal and not a gun? Would they catch that?
 

Mark R

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A friend of mine had a bit of explaining to do, after he went through airport security and they discovered live shotgun shell in his jacket pocket. He'd forgotten about it, having been on a shoot the week before.

After a bit of sweating, the agents bought the story, and confiscated the shell.
 
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I'd immediately switch religions to whatever particular God I'd prayed to that morning. Clearly, I'd have found the one true path to enlightenment. Then I'd start praying for snakes so I could be the hero who fended off the airborn reptilian menace with the handgun he'd accidentally smuggled aboard a domestic aircraft. Who doesn't want to be Samuel L. Jackson at some point in their life?
 

MotionMan

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So you forgot you had a handgun in your carry-on, and it wasn't detected. You get on your plane, sit down and decide to get your book out and discover the handgun in your carry on. Nobody else sees it. What do you do? :whiste:

Your OP does not match the response; "Nothing - hope nobody saw it." I voted for "nothing" anyway.

However, I am a rebel; I do not put my iPhone in Airplane Mode and I carry on bottles bigger than 3.4 ounces.

MotionMan
 

Raizinman

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Last year my wife and I flew to Seattle. We packed a few presents. One of the presents was a shaving kit with a straight edge razor. The Security guy sort of hurried us through as there was a hot blonde wearing a tube top behind us. I really don't think he looked at us at all. Perhaps this is the way to smuggle things onto an aircraft, just hire yourself a hotty to stand behind you. Anyway, when we got on the plane we debated long about what to do? We decided it best to just say nothing. We also had a debate about whether or not to say anything afterwards. Again, we decided on silence. We didn't believe anything good could come from telling anyone.
 

drebo

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*clap*clap* Great job the TSA is doing! Gun gets through security and is in the airport for TWO HOURS before they resolve the issue. How many people could she have killed?

Your billions at work!
 

skipsneeky2

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I'd immediately switch religions to whatever particular God I'd prayed to that morning. Clearly, I'd have found the one true path to enlightenment. Then I'd start praying for snakes so I could be the hero who fended off the airborn reptilian menace with the handgun he'd accidentally smuggled aboard a domestic aircraft. Who doesn't want to be Samuel L. Jackson at some point in their life?

SAY WHAT AGAIN I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU MOTHERFUC**R SAY WHAT ONE MORE GOD DAMN TIME!

Had to do it:thumbsup: One of his best lines ever in a film besides....

TIRED OF THESE GOD DAMN SNAKES ON THIS MOTHERFUC*ING PLANE!

God did i ever hate that movie.
 

jlee

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*clap*clap* Great job the TSA is doing! Gun gets through security and is in the airport for TWO HOURS before they resolve the issue. How many people could she have killed?

Your billions at work!

About as many as she could have if she went on a shooting spree before she made it through security. TSA is a joke. I've flown with a checked firearm maybe 6-8 times in the last three years - sometimes it's a smooth process, once they completely hand-searched my entire checked luggage (I declared a firearm, WTF would I put anything suspicious in there for), and once they lost my bag. Should've seen the look on the airline rep's face when she figured out that they lost a LEO's firearm...they found my luggage the next day.
 

440sixpack

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Last year my wife and I flew to Seattle. We packed a few presents. One of the presents was a shaving kit with a straight edge razor. The Security guy sort of hurried us through as there was a hot blonde wearing a tube top behind us. I really don't think he looked at us at all. Perhaps this is the way to smuggle things onto an aircraft, just hire yourself a hotty to stand behind you. Anyway, when we got on the plane we debated long about what to do? We decided it best to just say nothing. We also had a debate about whether or not to say anything afterwards. Again, we decided on silence. We didn't believe anything good could come from telling anyone.

Coincidence? I had a large folding boxcutter in my laptop bag a few weeks ago when i was flying to Seattle. I had forgotten it was there and showed to discretely to my colleague while we waited at the gate after getting through security with no questions. Went ahead with the flight without telling anyone (he actually sorta wanted to go back and show the security their mistake, i preferred not to spend a couple hours in an interrogation room).

In Seattle, debating what to do about the return flight, i decided "what the hell", i didn't want to throw it away so just decided to leave it in my bag, worst that could happen is it gets confiscated.

Made it through security without a peep again.

TSA X-Ray scanners =fail.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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A diplomatic bag is, by law, any old item that is identified as such and capable of holding stuff, be it a bag, box, satchel or the crusty sock from under the diplomat's bed. The idea behind the concept is as simple as it is prone for misuse: Anything and everything inside a diplomatic bag is untouchable by law enforcement. Basically, we're talking diplomatic immunity for inanimate objects.

And while most countries use their bags for boring stuff like classified files, some countries have noticed their potential and gotten creative. You can basically commit any crime you want, as long as said crime can be crammed inside a container designated as a diplomatic bag.

Well, in 1984 Nigeria took issue with a former minister of theirs, Umaro Dikko, who had moved to England. Dikko was a bit of a troublemaker, speaking out against the current government and criticizing them at every turn. Not being content with pissing off just one country, he was also in the habit of lashing out at Israel.

So, Nigeria and Israel decided to team up to bring Dikko back to Nigeria and shut him up.

Operation "Let's kidnap the shit out of this guy" was a great success, with Dikko yanked off the streets of London, drugged and taken to the airport by the joint Nigerian-Israeli squad. But how to get him in the plane?

Ha, easy! They would place Dikko in a wooden crate, tag it as a diplomatic bag and haul him off to Nigeria. No one can do anything even if the guy wakes up and starts banging the lid, because diplomagic. Mission accomplished!

Only someone had forgotten to fill out the proper paperwork for diplomatic baggage. So when Dikko did come to and the crate started moving around, the officials decided to take a peek.

Customs got Dikko out, and the kidnappers were arrested for almost managing to pull off a Batman villain scheme.
So you can blow up a plane and just show diplomatic immunity
 

OutHouse

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i would keep my mouth shut and put my bag under the seat in front of me with my feet on it until landing then hold with a death grip while deplaning and getting the hell out of the airport.

when my son was about 5 went on a trip, not thinking to thoroughly check his back pack he decided to bring one of my 6 shooter cap guns i had when i was a kid. let me tell you something, when you are standing at the TSA search table going over in your head of whats in the backpack, sandwhich, chips, beef jerky, coloring books, then as you look up the TSA agent pulls out a mother fucking gun from your kids backpack you just want to shit, and i mean shit yourself...

yea that was a day i want to forget. he is 13 now and i just look at him and think you little bastard you almost got me locked up in gitmo! no college for you!!!
 
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Leros

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I accidentally brought a couple of exacto knifes and a pocket knife onto a plane. I had them in my backpack (along with a few other tools) and forgot about them. I noticed them on the plane when I was rummaging around my bag for my headphones.
 

Triumph

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Once you're through TSA, unless you're traveling internationally there's no reason anyone would have to look in your carry on bags. I wouldn't tell anyone about it, but I'd wouldn't let that bag out of my site.
 

notposting

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I voted for say anything...but in all honesty I'm thinking it would be crap my pants and sweat like crazy lol.
 
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