Your Take on Ryzen? Worth buying or stick to Intel

[rh71]

I used to be all about AMD then switched to what was most popular. I was on an 8-year old Q6600 until I just bought an i5-7600K for $230 last month. There's no way Ryzen can beat that - and considering I've dealt with mediocrity for 8 years now, I'm not going to go all out on latest-greatest for $$$ anyway. More cores at double the price... not worth it even to someone in my position. Because I've already gotten 250% improvement from a $230 modern cpu.

 

[crisium]

I agree with the consensus. If gaming is #1, no, but if you can leverage the threads then the 1700 OC'd cannot be beaten in value.

 

[William Gaatjes]

I do want to upgrade, 1700 seems interesting but will wait what the 5 series will do and perhaps some driver updates will speed up some I/O and chipset operations making the system as a whole even faster. I will upgrade way after July. I was interested in a 1400X for starters but will wait and see. Ryzen is available for just a few hours. I will give it some time.

 

[french toast]

Plus, overclocking the 7700k to c. 5ghz extends the performance margin for typical usage.

I am happy with my 7700k @ 5.1ghz / DDR4-4000 C16 setup.

overclock a cheaper r1700 to 4ghz and it matches your overclocked 7700k in a sample of games at both 1080p and 1440p, whilst murdering it in everything else.

But the best value cpu in the market is a pentium.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Better than the R1700 ?? In what scenario?

Lower res gaming and ST stuff (even ignoring the weird outliers like Audacity)
If I didn't have already two dual X5690 boxes (parallel compute workloads) and a 4770K (gaming), I'd definitely pick up a few R7-1700s.

Still would gain significantly on power efficiency (those X5690s can heat up my small apt when they're really going!),
but not worth the trouble / bother of ripping everything up and setting up new systems.

 

[JimKiler]

I have not read reviews yet either, only snippets on wccftech, but why would 1080p be an issue and not higher resolutions?

 

[Arachnotronic]

I have not read reviews yet either, only snippets on wccftech, but why would 1080p be an issue and not higher resolutions?

CPU bound.

 

[RichUK]

Better than the R1700 ?? In what scenario?

Do I really need to detail this for you?

 

[JimKiler]

If you a pure gamer ->7700K/Intel. But I just can not vote yes/no , ryzen R7 is hard for me to place in a overall picture, the one thing it does well is make the 6800 and up just look chilly priced.

But like Usanthem stated I am going to wait for the fine tuning as well.
So waiting on those BIOS updates, If I read this correctly AMD will have their cpu drivers up to date in about a month to fix windows 10 issues. I was kinda excited to read the reviews today to then realize come back in a month time when we have the final bios/drivers. Not that it will result in massive gains , just me less having to thinker with everything in windows 10 and BIOS settings.

It is supposed to be based on your personal scenario.

 

[JimKiler]

CPU bound.

Sorry i am not that knowledgeable as i used to be, can you elaborate how CPU bound affects 1080p but not 1440p and above?

 

[french toast]

I used to be all about AMD then switched to what was most popular. I was on an 8-year old Q6600 until I just bought an i5-7600K for $230 last month. There's no way Ryzen can beat that - and considering I've dealt with mediocrity for 8 years now, I'm not going to go all out on latest-greatest for $$$ anyway. More cores at double the price... not worth it even to someone in my position.

I cant post links, but look at joker productions R7 1700 vs 7700k mainstream review.
He recommends the cheaper AMD as it matches the intel when both overclocked.

 

[Bouowmx]

Sorry i am not that knowledgeable as i used to be, can you elaborate how CPU bound affects 1080p but not 1440p and above?

Lower resolution, higher frame rate, higher CPU utilization

 

[scannall]

Sorry i am not that knowledgeable as i used to be, can you elaborate how CPU bound affects 1080p but not 1440p and above?

At higher resolutions, your GPU has to work harder and at some point you are GPU bound. If you are gaming at 4k for instance, you're gonna be GPU bound for quite some time. As long as your CPU can push harder than your GPU can use it, you don't need to upgrade your CPU.

 

[LTC8K6]

I cant post links, but look at joker productions R7 1700 vs 7700k mainstream review.
He recommends the cheaper AMD as it matches the intel when both overclocked.

Has anyone else gotten similar results?

Everyone seems to be quoting that one review to say RyZen is good for gaming.

 

[french toast]

Do I really need to detail this for you?

Yes! Unless there is one specific game that prefers ST performance you are better off with r7 1700, over 10 games they trade blows.
Almost every other scenario a 4ghz r7 1700 murders a 7700k @5ghz, unless there is a specific game or app that you use that maps well to the 7700k, which there will be.

 

[french toast]

Has anyone else gotten similar results?

Everyone seems to be quoting that one review to say RyZen is good for gaming.

Not looked yet, it will depend on game selection, but overcloking 8 cores seems to be sweet spot @ 4ghz, besides 1440p results are basically gpu bound in most cases so unless you like playing 1080p games at 100+ fps its not going to matter.

 

[William Gaatjes]

It is now at the moment what i expected, overall single digit slower than the adversary, the 6900k. But when you take the 6900k and add the expensive memory and expensive motherboard, and compare it to the 1700 all the way up to the 1800x with a x370 motherboard and the same memory. I say AMD has done a great job.

 

[RichUK]

Yes! Unless there is one specific game that prefers ST performance you are better off with r7 1700, over 10 games they trade blows.
Almost every other scenario a 4ghz r7 1700 murders a 7700k @5ghz, unless there is a specific game or app that you use that maps well to the 7700k, which there will be.

Where's the proof of that?

I struggle to see a 1700 at 4ghz performing better in games than a 7700k at 5ghz.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Sorry i am not that knowledgeable as i used to be, can you elaborate how CPU bound affects 1080p but not 1440p and above?

Sure. The idea is that if you run a game at 1080P, the GPU will be able to deliver higher frame rates than it can deliver at 1440p -- less graphics work to do.

What this means, then, is that IF the CPU is capable of rendering more frames but is being held back by what the GPU can do at 1440p, then lowering the resolution to 1080p (reducing the burden on the GPU compared to 1440p) will allow you to see just how many the CPU is able to pump out when the GPU isn't holding it back.

 

[french toast]

Where's the proof of that?

I struggle to see a 1700 at 4ghz performing better in games than a 7700k at 5ghz.

joker productions has benchmarked them, 3.9ghz vs 5ghz respectively, sorry cant post links.
Quick youtube search will find it.

 

[LTC8K6]

Where's the proof of that?

I struggle to see a 1700 at 4ghz performing better in games than a 7700k at 5ghz.

It was 3.9 for the 1700, and I also struggle to accept that result until I see replication.

 

[french toast]

It was 3.9 for the 1700, and I also struggle to accept that result until I see replication.

Fair enough, we need a duplicate.

 

[ultimatebob]

I guess that it would depend on what I was using it for.

If I was using something multi-threaded that with a high CPU workload like graphics rendering or video editing, sure.

If I was using it for gaming, I'd probably get a Core-i7 7700K instead. The GPU is the real bottleneck there.

If I was using it for office work, No. This CPU is overkill for Microsoft Office, and I'd be worried about stability issues. The Ryzen platform is going to need a few driver updates and BIOS updates before it's as stable as an Intel board.

 

[Absolute0]

It was 3.9 for the 1700, and I also struggle to accept that result until I see replication.

Not about to start watching Youtube videos in the office, but agree, that result flies in the face of the results of about 8 other tech sites and 100+ benchmarks I've reviewed for 2 hours now. Clockspeed and 5.0 Ghz 7700K win over 3.9 Ghz ryzen in gaming. Often, by a significant margin.

 

[Shlong]

I don't really game much anymore but I'm creating more 4K videos after the purchase of my Mavic Pro drone. My i7 2600K @ 4.4ghz slows to a crawl sometimes when editing the 4K videos on the timeline, so a 1700X with its 8 cores / 16 threads should really help out.