Your Take on Ryzen? Worth buying or stick to Intel

[.vodka]

Well, that's not confirmation that it works, though.

Am I not to take key AMD people words as truth for their own products?

That's no marketing slide we're talking about.

The ones I've read say pending motherboard support, and so far most motherboard manufacturers explicitly said no ECC ram support. We'll need a few days to get first hand user accounts whether the motherboards actually support ECC RAM or not.

Sure, it's all too green right now. As the dust settles down, we'll see how it turns out.

 

[guachi]

I think it's reasonable to say that AMD has made the Intel chips with more than four cores obsolete.

$400 for chip and board and you are good to go.

As for gaming, we've seen results all over the place. The few games that do make use of more than four cores show Ryzen performing well. Others, not so much.

Do you game at 4k? Do you ever use more than four cores? Get AMD and the money you saved can be used on hookers and blow.

 

[Face2Face]

I cant post links, but look at joker productions R7 1700 vs 7700k mainstream review.
He recommends the cheaper AMD as it matches the intel when both overclocked.

I like Joker as much as the next guy, but his review is becoming the "Tek Syndicate FX 8350 Review" The one review that no professional tech publication can replicate. I just find it very odd that he can come up with these numbers and no veteran HW reviewer can. It seems very suspect, just like the Tek Syndicate FX 8350 review was.

 

[french toast]

I like Joker as much as the next guy, but his review is becoming the "Tek Syndicate FX 8350 Review" The one review that no professional tech publication can replicate. I just find it very odd that he can come up with these numbers and no veteran HW reviewer can. It seems very suspect, just like the Tek Syndicate FX 8350 review was.

Having looked at other reviews i agree.
Amd has software issues that need addressing to pull level with broadwell, if you only care about gaming, specifically if you play high fps 1080p games intel is your choice, at least for a few months until amd can get the bios fixed and game optimizations done for the new uarch.
About then ryzen 5/3 will be out and we can re evaluate.
If you game at 1440p or above and or need multithreading perf R7 1700 is the way to go, other wise if you cant wait a pentium/6700k/6800k are your best choices for 1080p.

 

[LTC8K6]

I like Joker as much as the next guy, but his review is becoming the "Tek Syndicate FX 8350 Review" The one review that no professional tech publication can replicate. I just find it very odd that he can come up with these numbers and no veteran HW reviewer can. It seems very suspect, just like the Tek Syndicate FX 8350 review was.

Need to find another review using a Gigabyte board, I guess.

That seems to be the reason given. Gigabyte's BIOS is more mature.

 

[Face2Face]

Need to find another review using a Gigabyte board, I guess.

That seems to be the reason given. Gigabyte's BIOS is more mature.

I hope that's the only reason. I'm building a Ryzen rig with my buddy tomorrow (Asus X370 Prime Motherboard). I'm the one who recommended him buy an ASUS board, now I feel terrible... I can see his sad gaming face now.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

My initial impression is that they did a great job for the most part but rushed the release and should've had some of these issues worked out. Nevertheless, as a 2600K owner, my strategy is to wait until the release of Skylake-X in order to see if Intel drops price and in the meantime, see if AMD fixes some of these issues and to see if the platform stabilizes.

For the most part, they seem to have delivered on their promises. This is not a disastrous Bulldozer rehash.

 

[Carfax83]

Ryzen is definitely a success. Great performance for a great price. The most important metric other than the performance versus Intel, is the performance increase versus their previous offerings, and that is absolutely staggering! I have a feeling that Zen 2 is going to be the real clincher though so to speak that will really put AMD back in the position of being a strong competitor for Intel. The platform and the CPU still have lots of bugs to work out, but I'm confident that these will be solved in later revisions or BIOS updates.

 

[Tsavo]

Nope. Intel is good enough for me, and they have AMD creamed in the stability department. There's no way I am going to sit through regular BIOS updates and deal with random bugs ever again.

But, their CPU is a solid effort and should save the company.

 

[KentState]

Looks like a solid set of chips, but the thing that leaves me wanting are the motherboards released so far. If I was was going to build a Haswell/Broadwell-E replacement, I would want something like a higher end X99 board.

It's also been a very long time since owning an AMD cpu so my satisfaction level with Intel is very high as they have had no stability issues.

 

[LTC8K6]

My initial impression is that they did a great job for the most part but rushed the release and should've had some of these issues worked out. Nevertheless, as a 2600K owner, my strategy is to wait until the release of Skylake-X in order to see if Intel drops price and in the meantime, see if AMD fixes some of these issues and to see if the platform stabilizes.

For the most part, they seem to have delivered on their promises. This is not a disastrous Bulldozer rehash.

This is not a disastrous Bulldozer rehash...yet.

It still has the potential to be a disaster, which was something I really did not expect.

 

[lak_rok]

Take all reviews with a huge grain of salt. BIOS are extremely buggy. Windows drivers are unoptimized. Gaming code is unoptimized. I wouldn't be surprised with 5-10% boost in the near future.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I'm a bit disappointed but not unimpressed. Once Vega comes out I'll make a decision on how to build a fresh super rig, at which point I may still pick AMD over 7700K despite the apparent lower gaming performance.

 

[Sonikku]

I would probably replace my intel for this if not for WoW being one of my most play games and for its dependency on ultra fast single threaded performance. It sucks because I otherwise prefer AMD as a brand.

 

[french toast]

This is not a disastrous Bulldozer rehash...yet.

It still has the potential to be a disaster, which was something I really did not expect.

How can it turn into a disaster?? Its HALF the price.
Worst case scenario is they dont fix the 1080p gaming perf and you pay twice the price for equivalent multithreading performance but better gaming perf, either way it cant be a disaster.
Bulldozer was that.

 

[Insomniator]

Nope. Intel is good enough for me, and they have AMD creamed in the stability department. There's no way I am going to sit through regular BIOS updates and deal with random bugs ever again.

But, their CPU is a solid effort and should save the company.

This, exactly. I'll pick up Intel's response in 6 months, but nice work AMD.

 

[Lil Frier]

I would absolutely buy it, even though it doesn't suit me. I would be talking about a general purpose machine with some light gaming, basically where Intel still wins. However, I simply cannot give business to Intel when the margins are at all close, simply because of the company they have historically been. That whole crap of "call us before you publish a review" that was allegedly coming from Intel reminded me that I can't trust them. That, and pushing Coffee Lake and skipping 10nm AGAIN feels lazy.

I'm more than willing to live with AMD and a les-than-perfect Ryzen that will still meet my needs, simply to avoid giving money back to Intel. I'm going to wait for Ryzen 5, though. I'm on a 4670K that has no problems at this time, and I don't feel it wise for me to throw $400 at new components I don't need. Instead, I'll wait things out for Vega, get a look at AMD in full, and go from there.

 

[DaveSimmons]

How can it turn into a disaster?? Its HALF the price.
Worst case scenario is they dont fix the 1080p gaming perf and you pay twice the price for equivalent multithreading performance but better gaming perf, either way it cant be a disaster.
Bulldozer was that.

Agreed. Ryzen might or might not remain second-best for gaming, but right now it's already a better choice for multi-core non-gaming use.

 

[Absolute0]

My upgrade bug came out this morning, saw it's shadow, said NOPE 6600K @ 4.5 Ghz will continue to game great, went back to its gaming den for the next 12 months without upgrading.

Which was a pretty obvious result but I, like others here, have a tendency to upgrade without reason. I just like hardware, man.

 

[french toast]

Agreed. Ryzen might or might not remain second-best for gaming, but right now it's already a better choice for multi-core non-gaming use.

Honestly without meaning to be disrespectful, half the interweb has gone full retard mode.
All sense of objectivity and context has been thrown out of the window.
"if it doesn't pull 120fps gaming its crap"

 

[UsandThem]

Honestly without meaning to be disrespectful, half the interweb has gone full retard mode.
All sense of objectively and context has been thrown out of the window.
"if it doesn't pull 120fps gaming its crap"

I really don't see how anybody could see that comment, and think it was disrespectful in any way.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Take all reviews with a huge grain of salt. BIOS are extremely buggy. Windows drivers are unoptimized. Gaming code is unoptimized. I wouldn't be surprised with 5-10% boost in the near future.

Same thing happened back in the day with AMD BD. I bet we'll see a %15 gain from optimizations if not more once Microshaft pulls there heads out of there rears and get on the ball with code updates.

 

[Bouowmx]

AMD Ryzen scheduling optimization update probably in the next Windows 10 cumulative update or two.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4000825/windows-10-and-windows-server-2016-update-history

 

[Elixer]

I look at it as competition is back, intel can no longer gouge consumers as easily like they have been doing for years.

Ryzen brings some solid choices now, where before, there wasn't really anything.
In a few months when the rest of the lineup is out, and all the teething issues ironed away, it should be a pretty decent choice for almost everyone.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

If nothing else, it'll make Skylake-X cheaper, which is a win for us