You only gave me one, and then gave me theological explanations from people who already accept the Trinity as Christian and then tried to make the Bible fit.
His evidence is the Bible and its scripture.
All you got going for you is poor conjecture and mild correlation. Worse still, you are ignorant of the whole history of early Christianity.
Yet your link admitted that it cannot prove the trinity. So regardless of the lack of proof, you're gonna believe it anyway.
When was Jesus born, then?
Please work on trying to understand and process what you read. I understand that reading comprehension skills are hard to master. Keep working on it.
When was Jesus' birthday? Answer that and I will leave you alone.
You don't understand the reason why I am not answering that question? My reason for not answering should be a good puzzle for you to mull over.I am asking because I want to prove a point -- that Christianity has stolen pagan celebrations and made them "Christian". Your reluctance is telling me all I need to know.
Exactly! Satan was able to get you to believe in many falsehood and lies by disguising them in your education.
Really? Do you genuinely believe that?
So much disagreement between Christians regarding something as fundamental and important as what and who God is. Wouldn't an all powerful god be able to hand over a simple message without causing so much confusion?
I'm treading in pointless territory here, so i'll leave it alone.
Really? Do you genuinely believe that?
Genesis 3
King James Version (KJV)
3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
3 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.Ephesians 6:10-18
King James Version (KJV)
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
EDIT: Also, if you guys have already established the fact that god exists and even who he is and exactly what he wants, then whats left to figure out for you guys? What interest could you have for participating in an inquiry when there is nothing left to ask?
That's my life in a nutshell.Matthew 11:28-30 (KJV)
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Actually, if you hope to substantiate your claims and demonstrate that your argument has merit, yes, it is your job. If you are not interested in substantiating your claims and defending the merits of your arguments, then you are not having a discussion, you are just preaching.Not my job
This is not an attempt to answer my question. I'll repeat: Why is it something that must be "learned"?You seem to have an aversion to learning new things, most likely because it is very difficult for you. You have my sympathies for your learning deficit. Life must be difficult for you with your mental handicap.
Too bad your god isn't even a cat. At least cats are real.Too bad a cat is only a cat.
False. Listening was built-in to my nervous system.Yes, you did.
What "Holy spirit"?The Holy Spirit is the authority.
This is not an attempt to answer my question. I'll repeat it: So you don't believe your god to be omniscient, then?Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.
T'was Grace that taught my heart to fear.
And Grace, my fears relieved.
How precious did that Grace appear
The hour I first believed.
Through many dangers, toils and snares
I have already come;
'Tis Grace that brought me safe thus far
and Grace will lead me home.
The Lord has promised good to me.
His word my hope secures.
He will my shield and portion be,
As long as life endures.
Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.
John Newton (1725-1807)
Do you think anybody has any difficulty whatsoever inferring the complete bankruptcy of your position from your utter unwillingness to discuss the substantive issues in good faith? I don't.I doubt you are curious. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Matthew 11:28-30 (KJV)
Matt Slick is a joke. I've met him in person a few times, and even appeared on his "radio" show years ago when it was strictly online. He's a nice enough guy, for the most part, but his ideas are completely preposterous and he is utterly impervious to reason.
Matt Slick is a joke. I've met him in person a few times, and even appeared on his "radio" show years ago when it was strictly online. He's a nice enough guy, for the most part, but his ideas are completely preposterous and he is utterly impervious to reason.
It was pretty creepy when he trotted one of his daughters out to parrot something about the "hypostatic union," though, like she had any idea what she was talking about.
How do I know what? Sorry, not clear what you're questioning here.How do you know that?
Not sure who came first, but they both advance almost identical forms of argument with respect to the TAG.I believe Slick is one of those Brugencateists or is it the other way around?
How do I know what? Sorry, not clear what you're questioning here.
Not sure who came first, but they both advance almost identical forms of argument with respect to the TAG.
"How do you know that?" is like Sy Tens favourite question.
Oh I see. Sorry, I'm not as familiar with him as I am with Slick.
Oh I see. Sorry, I'm not as familiar with him as I am with Slick.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Indeed, the Bible teaches that Jehovah alone is God Almighty. (Genesis 17:1) As for Jesus, he was created by Jehovah, which is why he is called "the firstborn of all creation" and also "the beginning of the creation by God." (Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14) Yes, the very first thing God made was Jesus.
Jesus is the image of God, not separate from and is therefore also God, one of the Trinity.
Col 1:15, "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.…
Really? Do you genuinely believe that?
So much disagreement between Christians regarding something as fundamental and important as what and who God is. Wouldn't an all powerful god be able to hand over a simple message without causing so much confusion?
I'm treading in pointless territory here, so i'll leave it alone.
EDIT: Also, if you guys have already established the fact that god exists and even who he is and exactly what he wants, then whats left to figure out for you guys? What interest could you have for participating in an inquiry when there is nothing left to ask?
You ignored the meat of his post...particularly the parts where Jesus said the father knows something he doesn't know and is greater than him.
That's a separation of persons.
sigh...
you show one part as being incorrect all the other same parts are also incorrect. No need to show that.