You're 400% more likely to be attacked at Wal-Mart than Target stores

[meltdown75]

at the whole thread

 

[Minjin]

Originally posted by: mugs

Not to mention 551 stores out of 3500 is a really large sample size. We use polls of 1000 people to figure out how 100 million will vote!

You obviously didn't read too far into it:

E. Reported Police Incidents: A Comparison of Wal-Mart & Target Stores
A critical question explored by the ?Is Wal-Mart Safe?? study is whether Wal-Mart stores are unique in
experiencing a significant average rate of reported police incidents or do other nearby ?big box stores?
experience similar rates of reported police incidents. In theory, both Wal-Mart and nearby Target stores
should be expected to experience roughly similar rates of reported police incidents. In order to address this
question, a second phase of the ?Is Wal-Mart Safe?? safe study compared and contrasted the rates of police
incidents reported between select Wal-Mart stores and nearby Target stores.
This phase of the study focused on the 50 Wal-Mart stores out of the 460 analyzed stores that experienced
the ?highest rate? of reported police incidents in 2004. Target stores chosen for the comparative analysis
were within a 10-mile radius of the 50 ?high incident? Wal-Mart stores. Of these 50 ?high incident? Wal-
Mart stores, three stores did not have a Target within 10 miles, leaving a sample of 47 Wal-Mart stores for
further analysis. Because of further data restrictions, the sample for comparison was limited to 32 Wal-Mart
stores and 30 nearby Target stores.

 

[Minjin]

Originally posted by: Amused
Curious how only one person questioned the source. It's also curious how the source of this website does not readily identify itself.

Well, a little research and I found the source: WakeUpWalMart.com

They are a pro-union, anti-walmart group who spends all their time trying to tear Walmart down with various propaganda campaigns.

They couldn't give two sh!ts if you're safe at Walmart or not. Their sole purpose is to destroy Walmart. This is just another fear tactic.

Congrats, folks! You've been duped by political propaganda. :beer:

Actually, I try to look at whats being said not the person who's saying it. The source doesn't make fact any less truthful. It was obviously extremely biased from the start but what if it was true? As we can see though, the "scientific" study has proved to be anything but...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Minjin

Originally posted by: Amused
Curious how only one person questioned the source. It's also curious how the source of this website does not readily identify itself.

Well, a little research and I found the source: WakeUpWalMart.com

They are a pro-union, anti-walmart group who spends all their time trying to tear Walmart down with various propaganda campaigns.

They couldn't give two sh!ts if you're safe at Walmart or not. Their sole purpose is to destroy Walmart. This is just another fear tactic.

Congrats, folks! You've been duped by political propaganda. :beer:

Actually, I try to look at whats being said not the person who's saying it. The source doesn't make fact any less truthful. It was obviously extremely biased from the start but what if it was true? As we can see though, the "scientific" study has proved to be anything but...

True, very true. However, when reading unsubstantiated statistics it is always good to consider the source.

The page makes an attempt to seem concerned about crime at the Walmarts and want to help. When in reality, they would do anything to make things worse for Walmart. The site is misleading through and through.

And as you can see, the vast majority fell for this propaganda hook, line and sinker.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Minjin

Originally posted by: Amused
Curious how only one person questioned the source. It's also curious how the source of this website does not readily identify itself.

Well, a little research and I found the source: WakeUpWalMart.com

They are a pro-union, anti-walmart group who spends all their time trying to tear Walmart down with various propaganda campaigns.

They couldn't give two sh!ts if you're safe at Walmart or not. Their sole purpose is to destroy Walmart. This is just another fear tactic.

Congrats, folks! You've been duped by political propaganda. :beer:

Actually, I try to look at whats being said not the person who's saying it. The source doesn't make fact any less truthful. It was obviously extremely biased from the start but what if it was true? As we can see though, the "scientific" study has proved to be anything but...

True, very true. However, when reading unsubstantiated statistics it is always good to consider the source.

The page makes an attempt to seem concerned about crime at the Walmarts and want to help. When in reality, they would do anything to make things worse for Walmart. The site is misleading through and through.

And as you can see, the vast majority fell for this propaganda hook, line and sinker.

proof that it's misleading?

walmart IS the devil, so i'd be more inclined to believe it...

did you hear the story that came out yesterday involving walmart not paying its workers overtime for the past 5 years?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Minjin

Originally posted by: Amused
Curious how only one person questioned the source. It's also curious how the source of this website does not readily identify itself.

Well, a little research and I found the source: WakeUpWalMart.com

They are a pro-union, anti-walmart group who spends all their time trying to tear Walmart down with various propaganda campaigns.

They couldn't give two sh!ts if you're safe at Walmart or not. Their sole purpose is to destroy Walmart. This is just another fear tactic.

Congrats, folks! You've been duped by political propaganda. :beer:

Actually, I try to look at whats being said not the person who's saying it. The source doesn't make fact any less truthful. It was obviously extremely biased from the start but what if it was true? As we can see though, the "scientific" study has proved to be anything but...

True, very true. However, when reading unsubstantiated statistics it is always good to consider the source.

The page makes an attempt to seem concerned about crime at the Walmarts and want to help. When in reality, they would do anything to make things worse for Walmart. The site is misleading through and through.

And as you can see, the vast majority fell for this propaganda hook, line and sinker.

proof that it's misleading?

walmart IS the devil, so i'd be more inclined to believe it...

did you hear the story that came out yesterday involving walmart not paying its workers overtime for the past 5 years?

Let's try to stay on topic, ok?

You just admitted your own bias would make you believe obviously misleading propaganda. The proof is already in this thread. That you refuse to believe it or skipped right over it only shows you have an irrational faith in anything negative about Walmart.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Sorry, we have no data for Wal-Mart stores within 100 miles of 39440. Please write your local police department and request a report

FY2005 Revenue Target: 52,620,000,000

That was their target revenue, what was their actual?

No, that was Target's actual revenue for the year.

Link

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: Minjin

Originally posted by: mugs

Not to mention 551 stores out of 3500 is a really large sample size. We use polls of 1000 people to figure out how 100 million will vote!

You obviously didn't read too far into it:

E. Reported Police Incidents: A Comparison of Wal-Mart & Target Stores
A critical question explored by the ?Is Wal-Mart Safe?? study is whether Wal-Mart stores are unique in
experiencing a significant average rate of reported police incidents or do other nearby ?big box stores?
experience similar rates of reported police incidents. In theory, both Wal-Mart and nearby Target stores
should be expected to experience roughly similar rates of reported police incidents. In order to address this
question, a second phase of the ?Is Wal-Mart Safe?? safe study compared and contrasted the rates of police
incidents reported between select Wal-Mart stores and nearby Target stores.
This phase of the study focused on the 50 Wal-Mart stores out of the 460 analyzed stores that experienced
the ?highest rate? of reported police incidents in 2004. Target stores chosen for the comparative analysis
were within a 10-mile radius of the 50 ?high incident? Wal-Mart stores. Of these 50 ?high incident? Wal-
Mart stores, three stores did not have a Target within 10 miles, leaving a sample of 47 Wal-Mart stores for
further analysis. Because of further data restrictions, the sample for comparison was limited to 32 Wal-Mart
stores and 30 nearby Target stores.

Yep......that's really a significant study there. Pick out the 50 worst stores, allow yourself to then contrast those to stores within 10 miles of those stores and you can invariably come up with any statistic you care to come up with. I do like how they ignored the better Wal-Marts and picked some Targets that, while in their assigned 10-mile radius, were really farther out than some Targets much closer to the "bad" Wal-Mart. Guess we cannot contaminate a study with good work, eh?

Come on.......a 10-mile radius really is a bit much, don't you think? They should have restricted their study to maybe a 2-mile radius or only chosen stores that had adjacent WM's and Targets. But considering who is the underlying responsible party for the study, it's not really surprising what the end conclusion worked out to be.

As has always been said, figures lie and liars figure. I think most of us would be well advised to not take these statistics as proof of anything.

 

[BUTCH1]

My local wally had over 900 calls! Don't care though as I rarely shop there, they run
out of a LOT of stuff unless you get there @7:00 AM so it's not even worth the trip..

 

[reitz]

Originally posted by: mugs
No mention is made of how the stores were chosen? It's right in the report. It seems like everyone in this thread is making all sorts of authoritative comments without even reading the report.

I completely missed that, and I even scanned through twice looking for it.

However, after reading the quote

...based on a detailed analysis of local police incident reports (calls for service) covering 551 Wal-Mart stores in 434 cities and 30 states.5 The stores were chosen randomly based on a sample of 1,004 Wal-Mart stores that were open for all of 2004.6 The primary findings of this study are based only on the police reports associated with these 551 stores.

Where did the sample of 1,004 stores come from? Why not a random sample of all 2,800+ stores that were open in 2004? I'm still suspicious...it's not hard to cherry-pick a third of the stores to guarantee the results you're looking for in your then "random" selection of half of them.

I also stand by my statement that comparing the data to competing properties up to ten miles away is useless.

Not to mention 551 stores out of 3500 is a really large sample size. We use polls of 1000 people to figure out how 100 million will vote!

It's a large sample size if it's completely random, but I'm not at all convinced that it is.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Sorry, we have no data for Wal-Mart stores within 100 miles of L2A 5W7. Please write your local police department and request a report.

To have our researchers analyze the data from your nearest Wal-Mart store, forward an official crime report to:

WakeUpWalMart.com
1775 K St NW
Washington, D.C. 20006

 

[beer]

0 police calls to the WalMart in Plano, TX 75093.

Lots of the one to Austin, TX

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: Fayd
my walmart isnt listed in that site.


Score 1 for Poway! We're so uppity, we dont even have crime!

lmao, I hate the Poway Target...or at least that shopping center.

what are you talking about? the aliberto's there is like the best mexican food ever!

 

[iwearnosox]

That sockpuppets guy seems nice.

 

[totalcommand]

!Kidnapping 1
!Rape & Sex Crimes 2
!Auto Theft 2
!Robbery 3

http://www.walmartcrimereport.com/storedetail.html?id=418