You're walking down the street at night when 5 black thugs start following you

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RoloMather

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You are by yourself and there's no one else around.

You feel threatened and starts running. They run after you.

It is apparent that they are going to jump you and beat your ass down.

Your life could be in danger.

You don't know what weapons they have.

You are carrying a hand gun of your choice with a couple extra mags.

You do not want to go to prison.

What would you do?

Me: Run to a suitable cover and yell out, "Stop or I'll shoot." No other warning. Then proceed to shoot from closest to farthest if they keep advancing. I'm not going to show my gun until I have to aim and shoot (one action). I'm not sure how to avoid legal troubles in this kind of situation though. Can't prove to cops that my life was in danger. Been trying to think of a way not to get into trouble with the law in this kind of situation.

As several people who reported this thread pointed out, there's no reason for "black" thugs. They believed your racism in this thread was intention. Your history: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29033146 supports that view.
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Xcobra

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Shoot the fuck out of their legs until the can never walk for life. I saw that fucking video. Disgusting.

Disclaimer: I'm not racist.
 

guyver01

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(c) Don't be stupid enough to be in a neighborhood where there are 5 thugs (removed the racist connotation) who are following you and nowhere for you to turn.


The obvious answer is of course, fire into the air... warning shots to let them know you're packing... and a call for help from law enforcement.
 
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Stop and draw, if they continue I'm going to do my best to stop the threat with as much force as is required.
 

RoloMather

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(c) Don't be stupid enough to be in a neighborhood where there are 5 thugs (removed the racist connotation) who are following you and nowhere for you to turn.


The obvious answer is of course, fire into the air... warning shots to let them know you're packing... and a call for help from law enforcement.

You don't know what weapons they have so they can easily have at least one gun between the 5 of them.

Keep in mind that warning shot will probably get you shot dead.



Shooting them in the legs like the other poster said is a stupid move because there's 5 of them. Doing something as dumb as aiming for the hard to hit legs will get you killed. Also shooting their legs will let them shoot you back if they happen to be carrying.
 

Xcobra

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You don't know what weapons they have so they can easily have at least one gun between the 5 of them.

Keep in mind that warning shot will probably get you shot dead.



Shooting them in the legs like the other poster said is a stupid move because there's 5 of them. Doing something as dumb as aiming for the hard to hit legs will get you killed. Also shooting their legs will let them shoot you back if they happen to be carrying.
What would you do then? Shoot to kill? If they show a weapon. They are definitely dead.
 

RoloMather

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Shoot the fuck out of their legs until the can never walk for life. I saw that fucking video. Disgusting.

Disclaimer: I'm not racist.

You watch too many movies. No way are you going to accurately hit the legs in that kind of situation.
 

RoloMather

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What would you do then? Shoot to kill? If they show a weapon. They are definitely dead.

Obviously if you are going to shoot, shoot to kill. Gun basic 101. Otherwise you're opening yourself to a whole bunch of legal troubles.
 

BoomerD

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Aim for DCM...dead center mass. Your shot may not kill them...but you'll do enough damage to probably eliminate the threat.
NEVER pull a gun on someone unless you're prepared to shoot to kill. "Shoot them in the legs," "shoot the gun out of their hands," "fire a warning shot," fuck that. ONLY shoot to kill.
Kill them all, let Gawd sort it out.
 

TallBill

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What would you do then? Shoot to kill? If they show a weapon. They are definitely dead.

Here is a hint, you NEVER shoot to maim unless you're a highly highly qualified and trained marksman. I'm not just talking you shoot a lot, but you're in some sort of specialized tactical or SOC unit. Even then, use of such a shot are very limited. Warning shots do exist, but not for concealed weapons permit holders. Drawing a firearm warns someone, after that, it's shoot to kill.

Personally I would not start running from random guys, however scary they seemed. Pick up the pace maybe, or head towards somewhere more crowded. Perhaps pre-dial 911 on my phone in case of an encounter and check streets for exact cross sections. It's illegal to carry in Illinois so I wouldn't be armed.
 

guyver01

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You don't know what weapons they have so they can easily have at least one gun between the 5 of them.

Keep in mind that warning shot will probably get you shot dead.



Shooting them in the legs like the other poster said is a stupid move because there's 5 of them. Doing something as dumb as aiming for the hard to hit legs will get you killed. Also shooting their legs will let them shoot you back if they happen to be carrying.


Then... instead of posting a Kobyashi Maru scenario... why not post something realistic.

A warning shot into the air MIGHT get you shot dead... but people will know.

ANY action might get you shot dead.

This is a "no-win" scenario.
 

RoloMather

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Then... instead of posting a Kobyashi Maru scenario... why not post something realistic.

A warning shot into the air MIGHT get you shot dead... but people will know.

ANY action might get you shot dead.

This is a "no-win" scenario.

Not if you kill them first. You have the element of surprise. They don't know that you are carrying.

BTW this situation is realistic. I'm not sure what is so hard to imagine about it. Obviously in real life you won't know if they're armed. Some actions might get you killed so you should avoid doing them if possible.

Maybe you can get to cover and pull out your gun to warn them but then you lose the element of surprise so if they really want you dead you will probably die.
 
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brainhulk

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no-win scenario unless you have 5 watermelons that you can conveniently roll towards them
 

Venix

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Blindly firing a "warning shot" into the air in the city is incredibly stupid and typically illegal (reckless endangerment or similar). Anyone doing such a thing deserves a good asskicking from the thugs followed by a lengthy prison sentence.
 

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I would shoot myself because it is my fault for being on their turf and if I didn't want to be raped I wouldn't have been dressed like that. /whiteguilt
 

RoloMather

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And how does murder avoid your

You do not want to go to prison.

caveat?

I'm stuck on that myself. We all know that if they catch you there's a high chance of you dying or getting permanently maimed.

Of course there's the choice of you shooting them dead then leaving the scene. I highly doubt that cops are going to find you with no leads given that you're a random stranger.
 

guyver01

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Of course there's the choice of you shooting them dead then leaving the scene. I highly doubt that cops are going to find you with no leads given that you're a random stranger.


No leads?

are you using hand-machined bullets?

they can find you from your ballistics.

don't you watch CSI?
 

RoloMather

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No leads?

are you using hand-machined bullets?

they can find you from your ballistics.

don't you watch CSI?

CSI is bullshit most of the time.

In the real world random shit don't get solved most of the time.

Ballistics won't help if the police have no weapon and no suspect.
 

guyver01

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CSI is bullshit most of the time.

Your whole scenario is bullshit.... so expect bullshit answers.


The answer is:
If you're a dumbass and find yourself in a shit neighborhood followed by 5 thugs and nowhere to go for help... you deserve to be removed from the gene pool.
 
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