Youtube ads- I'm talking the 30sec ones you can't skip

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Markbnj

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I don't watch many Youtube videos any more, and pretty much the only ones I'll bail on are the non-skippable ads that are longer than the video.

However, videos I _always_ bail on are those that use the "Solve Media" crap that's been popping up, where they ask you to type in a phrase, or answer a question. That's too much, and I close those on principle.
 

oznerol

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Let me guess.

You own a dvr and don't use it to skip commercials? :biggrin:

That's not how advertising works on TV vs. the internet.

Internet ads are generally pay per impression (or x number of impressions). Adblockers actually prevent those impressions. TV ads are per estimated broadcast audience. DVR skipping or not, the provider gets paid.

Basically if you're using an adblocker on sites you legitimately care about, that serves mostly unobtrusive ads, you're stealing from those content providers. It's actually a growing issue - smaller sites are getting hit pretty hard by it.
 

Genx87

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I hate when you go to news sites, like cnn or whatever, and click on a news article, only to get a video of it, and the video has some unskippable commercial. Yeah, sure fire way to guarantee I'm not going to see your news article.

That is the worst. I have dropped more CNN video's because they plop a 35 second or some cases a 2 min commercial to a 45 second video clip.
 

Zeze

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You guys belong in ATOT yet you don't know about Adblock?

I haven't seen an YT ad in ages.
 

QueBert

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If you turn off your ad blocker on the website with the most annoying ads on the web, why bother having an ad blocker at all?

If you're that annoyed by simple Youtube ad's you probably shouldn't be on the internet. I watch a 30 second ad and get to watch a 25 minute video with no breaks. Seems like a hellova deal.
 

Jodell88

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That's not how advertising works on TV vs. the internet.

Internet ads are generally pay per impression (or x number of impressions). Adblockers actually prevent those impressions. TV ads are per estimated broadcast audience. DVR skipping or not, the provider gets paid.

Basically if you're using an adblocker on sites you legitimately care about, that serves mostly unobtrusive ads, you're stealing from those content providers. It's actually a growing issue - smaller sites are getting hit pretty hard by it.
Internet ads can also give you viruses.
 

Red Storm

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I block invasive ads. Why? Because the people who put those ads there should know that it's annoying. There are non-invasive ways of showing ads to help fund content.
 

clamum

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I haven't seen an ad on YouTube for a looooong ass time. I use Chrome at work and Firefox at home, both with AdBlock Plus.
 

Newbian

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That's not how advertising works on TV vs. the internet.

Internet ads are generally pay per impression (or x number of impressions). Adblockers actually prevent those impressions. TV ads are per estimated broadcast audience. DVR skipping or not, the provider gets paid.

Basically if you're using an adblocker on sites you legitimately care about, that serves mostly unobtrusive ads, you're stealing from those content providers. It's actually a growing issue - smaller sites are getting hit pretty hard by it.

/facepalm
 

Newbian

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I don't watch many Youtube videos any more, and pretty much the only ones I'll bail on are the non-skippable ads that are longer than the video.

However, videos I _always_ bail on are those that use the "Solve Media" crap that's been popping up, where they ask you to type in a phrase, or answer a question. That's too much, and I close those on principle.

Got a example?

Never seen that on legit video sites thankfully.
 

Newbian

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If you're that annoyed by simple Youtube ad's you probably shouldn't be on the internet. I watch a 30 second ad and get to watch a 25 minute video with no breaks. Seems like a hellova deal.

Tell me this when the ad's get longer then the video we want to watch.

Our time is valuable so screw crappy ad's.
 

phucheneh

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I don't understand. Do you think it's not true or it doesn't matter?

EIC of Destructoid put up a pretty good article about it.

Ads are what keep content free, but people think they're entitled to bypass them for whatever reason. I'm just saying it's worth considering whitelisting sites you frequent, trust, and care about because ads are paying their bills.

None of those ads are going to influence any purchasing decision in my life. They accomplish one purpose: to the raise the cost of goods.

Therefore, fuck ads. Maybe I'd buy someone's product if it wasn't overpriced to fund their budget for extremely ineffective advertising.
 

olds

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I always have multiple tabs open. So if an ad comes on that I can't skip, I go to another tab till I hear the ad end.
 

Newbian

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I don't understand. Do you think it's not true or it doesn't matter?

EIC of Destructoid put up a pretty good article about it.

Ads are what keep content free, but people think they're entitled to bypass them for whatever reason. I'm just saying it's worth considering whitelisting sites you frequent, trust, and care about because ads are paying their bills.

I was /facepalming because he said he turns it off on that site so why use it then if you disable it.

What you said is true and not the issue.
 

oznerol

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None of those ads are going to influence any purchasing decision in my life. They accomplish one purpose: to the raise the cost of goods.

Therefore, fuck ads. Maybe I'd buy someone's product if it wasn't overpriced to fund their budget for extremely ineffective advertising.

The effectiveness of ads is a different argument altogether. Ads are mostly pay-per-impression. As in, the more ads get served, the more money sites make. Click-throughs, purchases, etc don't directly affect the site serving the ads.

Realistically, it's just going to force content providers to change how they serve ads, making them more intrusive, or change their revenue streams altogether - likely in ways that won't benefit the end-user.
 

lambchops511

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What'd you expect? Google has to pay for the bandwidth, servers, and possibly content as well... The content creators also need money to create content, that's not cheap.. YouTube/content creators have to pay their bills...
 

GoPackGo

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I don't mind an occasional ad like 30 to 60 seconds every 10 to 15 minutes....but 1 for 1 on short videos is really annoying.
 

lxskllr

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I'll start allowing ads as soon as they quit trying to set cookies on my machine, and tracking my path across the web. They also need to tighten up their adservers so they don't throw malware around the web. Static ads on the sides of a page that only register a page load, and not who loaded it would do fine. No, that won't be as valuable as tracking my behavior, but it's infinitely more valuable than what I give them now. If YouTube(or any page) goes away, so be it. It isn't worth my liberty.
 

JEDIYoda

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I've never seen a YouTube ad. I'm not on foreign computers often, but if I were I keep a small thumb drive in my wallet so I can boot to TinyCore, or run Windows portable apps. That gives me an environment I'm comfortable with, and the tools I use on my home machine.
I know what you mean....
I have a hand held computer that is the size of a credit card....I picked it up at the JEDI store on Alderaan...yeah it`s solar powered....
 

AstroManLuca

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If you're that annoyed by simple Youtube ad's you probably shouldn't be on the internet. I watch a 30 second ad and get to watch a 25 minute video with no breaks. Seems like a hellova deal.

Lol, do you really think that? Okay sport, tell me the last time you watched a 25 minute long video on YouTube, because I sure can't remember when I last did. Most of the videos I watch on YouTube are no more than a minute or two. Slap a 30 second ad in front of every minute-long video and that adds up real quick.

Also, stuff like banner ads don't usually bother me because it's easy enough to look past them. Youtube ads directly interfere with the stuff I'm trying to watch. A lot of TV networks have websites where you can watch full episodes, and the ads don't even bother me because they insert them into natural commercial breaks.
 
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