YouTube Is About To Delete Independent Artists From Its Site

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Markbnj

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There's a group in my area that stakes out local places to make sure that local performing artists & bands are paying the cash to the original artist's company for covering songs. Gimme a break

That's basically BMI's entire business model.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Capitalism at it's finest. The big name labels probably lobbied for this to happen. then again Youtube has always been on their side anyway so they could have done this on their own will. They don't like competition, they especially don't like those pesky artists who think it's ok to make music and art free instead of making it into a commercialized product.

There really needs to be a big competitor to youtube. It also needs to be partially decentralized and setup in a way where videos can't be brought down due to a single person or oganization's views. Some kind of p2p video, music, and file upload service perhaps.

lol. YouTube doesn't care about people wanting to make "free" music available. They care about paying independent labels less. Some labels are complaining because YouTube offers their services to music listeners too cheaply.
 

MongGrel

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Actually it appears they might have started before now.

I looked for old things I liked today that I haven't looked at in a while, and they appear to be gone.

End of good times on many levels soon probably.
 

sandorski

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Below the linked Article is a rebuttal Article. We won't know what happens until it happens, but it sounds like Independents will be ok.
 

Zebo

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I'm getting really tired of Google. Removing discussion search, NSA cooperation, and now charging poorest artists while leaving richest with better deals. I'm sure there is more I don't know about I wouldnt like.

I haven't liked their shitty interface changes in years.

Any alternatives?
 
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Imaginer

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Capitalism at it's finest. The big name labels probably lobbied for this to happen. then again Youtube has always been on their side anyway so they could have done this on their own will. They don't like competition, they especially don't like those pesky artists who think it's ok to make music and art free instead of making it into a commercialized product.

There really needs to be a big competitor to youtube. It also needs to be partially decentralized and setup in a way where videos can't be brought down due to a single person or oganization's views. Some kind of p2p video, music, and file upload service perhaps.

There is, if you don't want to be in the clutches of Youtube.

http://blip.tv

http://vimeo.com/

Problem is, sites like these aren't well known, because like the other "Google" mentality, people default to Youtube in a similar manner. The only way another competitor to get big - and half of the battle to become big, is to be known, their name perpetuated, and to be just as spread in name. But I have not seen this happen.
 
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FelixDeCat

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youtube finds new ways of ruining the site everyday

the employees are overpaid and must justify their positions by constantly implementing stupid ideas, stupid concepts, stupid formats, stupid integration, etc

the youtube of late 2010 / early 2011 was the best
 

Imaginer

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Google owns Youtube, and already has a music streaming service that sounds exactly like this new Youtube program. I wonder what the goal is here...

Vlogging is what youtube was created for I think. You know, people that want to make videos and don't have a tv show. But then google bought it, now they monetize their videos and it's getting quite competitive.

...better tutorial videos basically stop before anything interesting is revealing and try and get to to be a paid subscriber.

I'm getting really tired of Google. ...and now charging poorest artists while leaving richest with better deals. I'm sure there is more I don't know about I wouldnt like.

In a nutshell, the Net Neutrality aspects that also should be championed for, not just from what is publicized but also equal in this manner too. But one would not hear about this aspect and angle anyways.

Google may start in shifting to prioritizing their bigger traffic market - you know, the ad traffic pullers. Smaller videos, and ones that do not garner enough ad revenue maybe de-emphasized. It gets worse that anyone uploading to Youtube must feel the need to post something "popular" thus garnering ad-traffic revenue for what basically amounts to a worthless video - coupled with a blanket-ad-serving system.

Or, a channel/user/owner submitting copyright claims for a competitor channel to be shut down, and then ripping content to be hosted on their own channel for such ad-revenue... in some cases.


Any alternatives?

I gave two sites in my first post to this thread. But they may not have the proliferation of selection. Some web series (I partake in some Nostalgia Critic at times) are hosted through Blip. Both leverage existing social media commenting systems - which maybe a negative to some, but better than starting from scratch in that area.
 
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BeeBoop

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Youtube isn't deleting any videos. The indies just won't get paid for their uploads.
 
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Wow, that really sucks for the indies. I don't use Youtube for my music, but I know youngsters pretty much use it exclusively to get their music. Now they will still be able to get their major label stuff, which is probably what the majority of kids listen to anyway, but in the past maybe that would to lead them to find some smaller bands there...no longer apparently. Could be a big hit to the small amount the indies make right now.

KT

This is what worries me as well. Do not want Katy Perry and that other awfull crap.
I found a lot of good music, some by sifting through youtube video's and some through my favorite radiostation 3FM.
Spotify may be a good alternative then...
 
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