YouTube... WTF

[sdifox]

I have brave just for watching youtube with no ads :whiste:

 

[Red Squirrel]

Isin't Brave Chromium based? Google could easily do something to upstream code that affects that too. I think this is just a really hit and miss thing. Like today, it's fine now, I'm not getting blocked anymore. Unless by posting this I jinx it again...

 

[sdifox]

Isin't Brave Chromium based? Google could easily do something to upstream code that affects that too. I think this is just a really hit and miss thing. Like today, it's fine now, I'm not getting blocked anymore. Unless by posting this I jinx it again...

Chromium is open source. MS Edge is also based on Chromium.

Chromium (web browser) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Red Squirrel]

Pretty much everything but Firefox is Chromium based. And maybe Opera?

 

[lxskllr]

Opera is chromium, and also Chinese if you didn't have enough reason not to use it.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow had no idea about Opera being Chinese. I remember using it before but I always found myself just going back to Firefox. Same when Chrome came out, I tried it for a bit then went back to Firefox.

 

[lxskllr]

Old, old Opera was pretty decent for proprietary software, and came out with lot of good innovations for browsers, but they never had a large market share, and browsers became commodities, so it was hard to use it as a profitable business. They were bought by the Chinese in 2016.

 

[MtnMan]

Just face it.... it's all over. (your privacy I mean)

In the EU, they actually care about users privacy, and YT may be breaking EU laws, in that they are running scripts to see what users are running on their device, without permission... a no no in the EU.

YouTube’s Ad Blocker Detection Believed to Break EU Privacy Law

A complaint filed with the EU’s independent data regulator accuses YouTube of failing to get explicit user permission for its ad blocker detection system, potentially violating the ePrivacy Directive.

www.wired.com

 

[Red Squirrel]

I seem to be fine again now... hopefully I don't jinx myself this time lol. I was unable to watch videos for maybe half a day then next day it started working again.

 

[MrSquished]

In the EU, they actually care about users privacy, and YT may be breaking EU laws, in that they are running scripts to see what users are running on their device, without permission... a no no in the EU.

YouTube’s Ad Blocker Detection Believed to Break EU Privacy Law

A complaint filed with the EU’s independent data regulator accuses YouTube of failing to get explicit user permission for its ad blocker detection system, potentially violating the ePrivacy Directive.

www.wired.com

US regulators could learn a thing or two from the Europeans in quite a few matters, this being one of them.

 

[Shmee]

In the EU, they actually care about users privacy, and YT may be breaking EU laws, in that they are running scripts to see what users are running on their device, without permission... a no no in the EU.

YouTube’s Ad Blocker Detection Believed to Break EU Privacy Law

A complaint filed with the EU’s independent data regulator accuses YouTube of failing to get explicit user permission for its ad blocker detection system, potentially violating the ePrivacy Directive.

www.wired.com

Hopefully this means that youtube will stop this nonsense. Though I still haven't gotten any warning yet.

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725290175419277450

i'm not sure why you'd be using chrome over FF but now the switch is easier?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Another thing Youtube is doing: adding an artificial delay for Firefox. I did not realize that delay was on purpose I thought it was just some weird stuff going on in the background with them trying to block the ad blocker but then ublock working around it.

 

[Shmee]

Hmm, maybe we should just stop using them.

 

[Exterous]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725290175419277450

i'm not sure why you'd be using chrome over FF but now the switch is easier?

Supposedly there is a Manifest v3 version of uBlock that will work. At the moment it's not as good but, given the pace uBlock has been maintaining, that might change

 

[lxskllr]

Supposedly there is a Manifest v3 version of uBlock that will work. At the moment it's not as good but, given the pace uBlock has been maintaining, that might change

My brief look says V3 addons are inherently limited by the numbers of definitions they can include. A kludgy hack would be several ublocks running at the same time with different definition sets. Something smarter is probably possible, but they're fixes to a problem that was artificially created.

I will never not use firefox, and I'll never use the blink engine. If a site doesn't work in firefox, or my backup barebones webkit default browsers that come with various distros, I'll just do without.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Does uBlock take donations? I think they deserve some compensation for the work they've been doing. It's crazy to see it practically in real time, where Youtube will stop working for like a day, then suddenly works again. Pretty sure a lot of that is uBlock keeping up with whatever changes Youtube is doing.

Without uBlock the internet as a whole would practically be unusable now days.

 

[lxskllr]

Does uBlock take donations?

GitHub - gorhill/uBlock: uBlock Origin - An efficient blocker for Chromium and Firefox. Fast and lean.

uBlock Origin - An efficient blocker for Chromium and Firefox. Fast and lean. - GitHub - gorhill/uBlock: uBlock Origin - An efficient blocker for Chromium and Firefox. Fast and lean.

github.com

 

[Red Squirrel]

I guess they feel they don't need the money nor see that as an incentive. That's pretty cool.

 

[MtnMan]

So when is Google going to block Gmail, or Google Docs, Google Maps, Google Play Store, or even searches unless you delete your ad blocker? June 2024 if you use Chrome for a start.

 

[Captante]

So when is Google going to block Gmail, or Google Docs, Google Maps, Google Play Store, or even searches unless you delete your ad blocker? June 2024 if you use Chrome for a start.

Approx date to have completely eliminated Chrome .... May 2024.

 

[MtnMan]

Approx date to have completely eliminated Chrome .... May 2024.

Gmail has a really effective spam filter. Virtually no spam hits my inbox, and it is rare indeed when something ligament is flagged as spam. Pay a subscription... or they disable that? I wouldn't put it past them

 

[lxskllr]

My only google service is a lonely email account I don't use, but keep around cause I'm used to it. I have accounts at mailo(which I pay 12€/yr for the "pro" edition) and disroot who I donate to every year. Neither get spam. I also have a couple yandex accounts. Spam to those is helpfully in Russian, so it's easy to see at a glance what messages are really spam(not many).

 

[Stiff Clamp]

Surely MOzilla can stay one step ahead. Maybe spoof the user-agent string . . . I don't know.

I have been having glitches with playback on Youtube using Firefox. Usually hitting the arrow key to skip ahead 5 seconds lets the video flow freely. I've yet to notice any ad block ultimatum, and I use YT all the time.

 

[Captante]

Video playback on some other streaming services (Amazon in particular) is visibly inferior on Firefox too! Max (formerly HBO Max) and Peacock (NBC) seem relatively immune to this .... Paramount Plus and Youtube OTOH look vastly better on Chrome.

Things that make you go hmmm?