Z Nation on SyFy

pontifex

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Dec 5, 2000
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2 episodes out so far and acting is pretty bad, plus lots of plot holes.

I don't get the zombies...the people just seem to run/walk right by them and they don't even care, then sometimes they run/attack, other times they just walk, and then there's been at least 2 i can remember that toy with their prey instead of mindlessly going after them.
 

Elixer

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I guess they want to say they got some dumb zombies, and some really dumb zombies, and some really, really dumb zombies.

Don't you like hit how "10,000" uses a sling shot to take out zombies ?

I don't see this show lasting much longer.
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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Show about zombies and made by SyFy? Pretty much hits the only two things I have on my "never give it a chance" checklist.

I really wish we could get something other than zombies, vampires, or ghosts these days. What ever happened to just plain ol' crazy cannibals? Why can't horror movies / shows focus on the actually scary shit in the world: the depths and depravity of human nature. It is must scarier to know that people like Jeffery Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy exist than some magic zombie BS.
 

ctbaars

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I DVR'd it. Should I delete it straight away?
 
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SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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The show is not even internally consistent.

One one scene they gun guy is talking about how a .22 has more available ammo but will take 2-3 shots to kill a zombie, and then in the very next scene the guy with the .22 one shots like 3 zombies with it.

Then I finally turned it off after the entire team lined up to empty their entire clips on 2 zombies. So much for being worried about ammo.

Overall the show feels like a syfy monster of the week show, which are fine for one shot shows where you don't have to worry about plot, but a ongoing show needs something more going for it.
 

Ruptga

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Every once in a while a good show will get picked up by them, such as Stargate, and they also made Eureka which was at least decent, but those are definitely exceptions to the rule. They're pretty much the scifi ghetto's landlord and pimp.
 
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Zim Hosein

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Is it just me or does the guy who survived the eight zombie bites remind you of Riker from ST:TNG? :\
 
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Show about zombies and made by SyFy? Pretty much hits the only two things I have on my "never give it a chance" checklist.

I really wish we could get something other than zombies, vampires, or ghosts these days. What ever happened to just plain ol' crazy cannibals? Why can't horror movies / shows focus on the actually scary shit in the world: the depths and depravity of human nature. It is must scarier to know that people like Jeffery Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy exist than some magic zombie BS.

But, but but, zombies could totally happen!

Dahmer and Gacy are nothing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims

Or this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

Panzram confessed to 22 murders, and to having sodomized over 1,000 males

There's a decent documentary on him on Netflix: Carl Panzram: The Spirit of Hatred and Vengeance.

Or these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-eating_Johnson (Jeremiah Johnson was based on this I believe)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Dyer

There's also a documentary on H.H. Holmes on Netflix but I haven't watched it.

Citizen X was a pretty good (not sure how factually so though) movie about one of the Russian serial killers on that list.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Oh, no wonder its bad, its made by the sharknado people....

So i get that the 1 guy is resistant to zombie infection, but how did he survive the actual physical bites/flesh tearing? I know the black guy went back for him but he single handedly saved him and patched him up?
 

futurefields

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I really wish we could get something other than zombies, vampires, or ghosts these days. What ever happened to just plain ol' crazy cannibals? Why can't horror movies / shows focus on the actually scary shit in the world: the depths and depravity of human nature. It is must scarier to know that people like Jeffery Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy exist than some magic zombie BS.

You've apparently never watched the Walking Dead, a show about zombies where humans are the real danger.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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I watched it with the expectations of it being so bad that it might be comedic... but alas, no -- it was just bad.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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You mean where an entire season was based around "Carl is out of the house again!" nonsense?

Little House on the Prairie, Zombie Edition.

The Walking Dead would be better if they didn't try so damn hard to make it into a soap opera. Just give us a world where mankind is no longer the alpha predator but instead the prey. Give us some smart people who find ways to survive, and some not so smart ones that get eaten. Then make it about survival, not romantic drama.
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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Little House on the Prairie, Zombie Edition.

The Walking Dead would be better if they didn't try so damn hard to make it into a soap opera. Just give us a world where mankind is no longer the alpha predator but instead the prey. Give us some smart people who find ways to survive, and some not so smart ones that get eaten. Then make it about survival, not romantic drama.

But then the Governor would be the main character, and one of the only that survive. All of Rick's pity party crew would die out pretty quickly. The only character they have developed into anything decent is Carol. She went from a weak, pathetic individual to a real survivor. Daryl was already developed to the point of being likable at the very start, so they haven't really done much to move him along. Everyone else is pretty awful.
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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Little House on the Prairie, Zombie Edition.

The Walking Dead would be better if they didn't try so damn hard to make it into a soap opera. Just give us a world where mankind is no longer the alpha predator but instead the prey. Give us some smart people who find ways to survive, and some not so smart ones that get eaten. Then make it about survival, not romantic drama.

I would guess it's a purely budgetary factor, tbh... I know the entire farm/barn season was a result of the AMC execs telling WD to save money by using fewer sets.
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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It's got the feel of a cheap scifi channel budget, but I don't think its nearly as bad as some stuff they've put up.
 

SMOGZINN

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But then the Governor would be the main character, and one of the only that survive.
I would watch that show. The Governor was a decent character for a post apocalyptic survival show. He was a little crazy, but overall not that bad of a guy, and seemingly the only person we have met that has a plan for the future more complex than 'find somewhere to sleep tonight'.

I would guess it's a purely budgetary factor, tbh... I know the entire farm/barn season was a result of the AMC execs telling WD to save money by using fewer sets.

I know. But it seems stupid. They have one of the few shows with real potential to be great and they kill it to save a few bucks. Game of Thrones is as popular as it is because it has the budget to be awesome. Every week it shows us a new wonder, and we tune in to see it.
 

smackababy

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I would watch that show. The Governor was a decent character for a post apocalyptic survival show. He was a little crazy, but overall not that bad of a guy, and seemingly the only person we have met that has a plan for the future more complex than 'find somewhere to sleep tonight'.



I know. But it seems stupid. They have one of the few shows with real potential to be great and they kill it to save a few bucks. Game of Thrones is as popular as it is because it has the budget to be awesome. Every week it shows us a new wonder, and we tune in to see it.

GoT also has a lot of stuff cut down for budget reasons! They just do so well with the budget they do have, it isn't so noticeable.
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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I know. But it seems stupid. They have one of the few shows with real potential to be great and they kill it to save a few bucks. Game of Thrones is as popular as it is because it has the budget to be awesome. Every week it shows us a new wonder, and we tune in to see it.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the spin-off... I'm interested to see what Robert Kirkman can come up with now that he's already got some TV experience under his belt and won't be constrained by having to somewhat follow along with the comic series.

I'm assuming from the start, it'll be centered around some kind of home base just to limit the budget from the beginning, to have more money to spend on other stuff.
 
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