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Moonbeam

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I'm not opposed to that idea.
I'm opposed to a system that is built around rewarding and thus encourages the development of callowness as an admirable character. We live in a society that worships money as the method by which happiness can be obtained because the only thing we value is freedom from fear of domination by others if we fail to succeed in our sick system. We live to win the lottery of one kind or another. We die having never lived.

Self realization is such a system brings enormous pain. Thank God for television.
 

NWRMidnight

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You have no position other than paying rent to RE oligarchs is all good in your book.
Are you a monkey? Because you keep throwing shit at the wall, offering nothing that solves the actual problem.

The facts are my position. Which I have already stated. It's Supply problem that has only 1 solution: 6 million new homes need to be built to catch up to today's demand. Nothing you have thrown at the wall changes that, or fixes the lack of supply, as it can't be fixed without building new single family homes.

Until you offer up a solution that creates 6 million new homes, you will be nothing but a shit throwing monkey.
 
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nickqt

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That's the GOP way. Rhetoric combined with inaction is why they accomplish nothing during their tenures.
The Republican Party is amazing at lowering tax rates on the rich and corporations and deregulating the market so that the rich and corporations have extra cash on hand to purchase real estate and can profit from it in ways to work their way back to an aristocracy and eventually a monarchy.

Regardless of the evidence otherwise, the person making these ridiculous arguments is a liberal parody troll even if they aren't actually trying to be a liberal parody troll.
 

FelixDeCat

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The Republican Party is amazing at lowering tax rates on the rich and corporations and deregulating the market so that the rich and corporations have extra cash on hand to purchase real estate and can profit from it in ways to work their way back to an aristocracy and eventually a monarchy.

Regardless of the evidence otherwise, the person making these ridiculous arguments is a liberal parody troll even if they aren't actually trying to be a liberal parody troll.
I want all American families to be able to have affordable housing and if possible to be able to payoff their own home. That isnt possible when one man can own hundreds of lower middle class homes and people have to pay him rent when they could easily be buying for the same price or less.

If you want to rent, rent an apartment. If you want to invest, invest in apartment buildings or REITs which are primarily a mixture of multifamily and commercial RE.
 

FelixDeCat

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do you want to regulate the ability of those capitalists to accumulate wealth?
When it comes to essential things like basic nutrition (no luxuries), basic shelter and even things like fucking water rights (which they are also hogging) .... obviously, yes.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Some questions for you:

When you go to sell a property you own, are you going to sell at the market price or are you going to sell at a discount to help out lower to middle class families?

Everyone is going to take whatever they can get because things are so expensive including replacement housing you are almost forced to do it. Had we regulated the transfer of single family homes in some way, things might not be so bad.

Sadly, most average people cannot afford to sell "at a discount" to what some fat cat will pay to add to his large portfolio because of the housing mess we are in.

Are there any major markets in the US where a single person or group has the market power to charge what they want because they've captured enough of the market (like a Pottersville)?

I am not sure, but there is the market price. If you have enough places charging an average price for something (like one bedroom, two bedroom, three bedroom, etc), most investors will charge that price or maybe higher if its in a better location.

Kind of like gas prices. A long time ago, it was easier to find lower prices if you drove around enough. these days with prices posted in central places, most stations charge that price

And if there are any cheap, good places to rent they are gone very fast.
 

MrSquished

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When it comes to essential things like basic nutrition (no luxuries), basic shelter and even things like fucking water rights (which they are also hogging) .... obviously, yes.
Food, shelter, healthcare, clean water....what fucking next you goddamn capitalist hating communist? Infrastructure and an education? You are disgusting. GTFO commie bastard.
 
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