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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Hope? Change? NO. More of the same at home and abroad Until the laughing queen makes America the laughing stock of the world. Can America afford Kamala? Save America. Vote Trump 2024.


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You forgot to back up your claims with a preponderance of hard hitting factual evidence as to who or what actually caused these alleged stats you posted.

You're like a pyromaniac setting off a dumpster fire thinking what you did sure was a jizzer but scurried away without leaving a cut and paste manifesto behind to get the creds for your dirty deed.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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These assholes are going to get people killed.

If you are ok with these damn lies about "illegal immigrants" (lie number 1) eating pets (lie number 2), you are a piece of shit. End of story. If you are telling those lies, go have a fucking stroke and make the world a better place.
Speaking of getting people killed they are shooting at or around Trump again!

Post in thread 'Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk'
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outriding

Diamond Member
Feb 20, 2002
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You're guess is as good as mine, fellow citizen. I think we should focus on their immigration status and if America can continue to accept more people as our resources can be put to better use helping our own citizens who are sleeping in cars and addicted to drugs thanks to bad policies.

Personally I am not tolerant to grammatical errors…
 

outriding

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Feb 20, 2002
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You forgot to back up your claims with a preponderance of hard hitting factual evidence as to who or what actually caused these alleged stats you posted.

You're like a pyromaniac setting off a dumpster fire thinking what you did sure was a jizzer but scurried away without leaving a cut and paste manifesto behind to get the creds for your dirty deed.

I honestly wanted to know how the vice president affected used cars prices

The mental gymnastics would be good enough to qualify for the Olympics
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Its thinking like this that causes rifts in society. You should probably tone down the rhetoric a tad.

When you lump everyone together and say "All Republicans are terrorists man!" thats the slippery slope of facism you claim to hate.
The Republican Party supports terrorism against this countries citizens of color. I can make that general statement because your party fails to stand up against it

Its leader associates with white nationalists and that is a general statement
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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You forgot to back up your claims with a preponderance of hard hitting factual evidence as to who or what actually caused these alleged stats you posted.

You're like a pyromaniac setting off a dumpster fire thinking what you did sure was a jizzer but scurried away without leaving a cut and paste manifesto behind to get the creds for your dirty deed.
That poster is no longer able to respond.
 

esquared

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 8, 2000
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Yeah, no. Being called a disgrace was tame.

If she wanted to she could have called him a traitorous, misogynistic, racist, sexual assaulter, felon and it would have just been the truth.

Calling him only a disgrace was actually being kind.
 
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Stokely

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Jun 5, 2017
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Don't really get why people don't use the ignore function. Trolling or people that support what's happening in Springfield, either one is enough to say bye as far as I'm concerned.
 

jdubs03

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So 46% of Republicans believe this eating pets crap. 24% aren’t sure.
Independents- 51% think it’s false, 26% not sure.
How the hell are 10%* of Dems not sure. (Mistakenly put 20%, that was total)

This shit is insane!
 
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Dave_5k

Golden Member
May 23, 2017
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So 46% of Republicans believe this eating pets crap. 24% aren’t sure.
Independents- 51% think it’s false, 26% not sure.
How the hell are 20% of Dems not sure.

This shit is insane!
Fox News has been exclusively covering the claims as though true or at least substantially accurate, and mocking Dems/real media for denying this “truth”, and their orange god has non-stop repeated this “truth” that is now part of the holy gospel
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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So 46% of Republicans believe this eating pets crap. 24% aren’t sure.
Independents- 51% think it’s false, 26% not sure.
How the hell are 20% of Dems not sure.

This shit is insane!
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I could probably get 20% of Americans to believe the sun is made of potatoes given a sufficiently large platform from which to say it. A certain slice of humanity are...shall we say...fucking morons. A fact that is readily apparent to anybody who has ever worked a service job.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I could probably get 20% of Americans to believe the sun is made of potatoes given a sufficiently large platform from which to say it. A certain slice of humanity are...shall we say...fucking morons. A fact that is readily apparent to anybody who has ever worked a service job.

That's quite an interesting and true statement..

Most of the time when you say something without the platform, you come across an idiot or someone too cocky..

And the people mostly can't tell the difference unless they've been shown proofs in school which is being quietly eliminated.. and we're being trained to believe in a sky god instead..
 

NWRMidnight

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2001
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We are very much in agreement. Tax policy favoring real estate investment has allowed the richest to hog real estate and monopolize the price of basic shelter.

Repeal favorable tax policy for real estate investors and you will see housing supply come on to the market and depress prices making opportunities available for single family home ownership ... by actual families!
If taxes was indeed the issue, Do you understand what level of government that all falls under? HInt: It is the same level of goverment that are mostly responsible for homeless people, crime, etc in the states/cities. So, which level is it it, federal, state, or local?
 
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NWRMidnight

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Jun 18, 2001
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Don't really get why people don't use the ignore function. Trolling or people that support what's happening in Springfield, either one is enough to say bye as far as I'm concerned.
two reasons, 1) if you set someone on ignore, you see only half of the conversation, and it can tend to add confusion to the discussion. 2) if you ignore people who are blatently lying, telling conspiracy theories, and trolling, rather than calling them out on their bullshit, it allows those bullshit talking point to gain traction where more people start believing such bullshit. It's clearer than ever why we can't just put someone on ignore and let them spread bullshit.
 

NWRMidnight

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2001
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So 46% of Republicans believe this eating pets crap. 24% aren’t sure.
Independents- 51% think it’s false, 26% not sure.
How the hell are 10%* of Dems not sure. (Mistakenly put 20%, that was total)

This shit is insane!
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not to rain on your parade, but how can anyone trust a poll that has 101% as their totals? Kinda puts a damper on accuracy if basic addition isn't coming out right.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Sure, citizens asking for handouts is not Ok. Cause conservatives have no heart and are shitty people.

But corporate handouts to millionaires and billionaires are A-OK.

So you are saying you would give any amount to anyone who asks for it for any reason (or even no reason at all) and the amount of money you would give them would be unlimited? And do otherwise would be shitty? Ok. We do this sometimes, its called "stimulus payments" and it causes a lot of inflation.

And no, I do not disagree that corporate welfare is excessive and should be reigned in outside of targeted investments for the greater good. A recent example would be the "chips act" that seeks to re-shore chip manufacturing for security reasons.

Stop thinking with your emotions and use your noodle.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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If taxes was indeed the issue, Do you understand what level of government that all falls under? HInt: It is the same level of goverment that are mostly responsible for homeless people, crime, etc in the states/cities. So, which level is it it, federal, state, or local?

What level? Federal tax law.

It was a concept born out out of oil / gas well investing. It takes a lot of money to drill a successful well. When you finally have one and are now producing income, you get to offset part of your payments to recover your investment before you pay taxes on your income stream from the well. Lets say you make $100,000 a month from a well and it cost $5,000,000 in up front costs. Until you fully recover your $5,000,000, you only pay tax on much less than your $100,000.

I am not a RE expert but from what I have heard is that the same concept applies. In fact, you can even buy a REIT and just hold it and now you have qualified dividends that can be counted as return of capital.

Theoretically the "investor" in real estate would then pay capital gains taxes when the property is sold since they since recovered their initial investment (eventually).

But wait! You can avoid capital gains taxes on the sell of your old RE for new RE so long as you do a "like kind" exchange ....


In fact as you continue to hog real estate, building your low tax cash flows using borrowed money (leverage) you may build a sizable portfolio. Your now also "putting off" capital gains. And as final kick in pants, if you transfer your homes to a living trust near your end of life naming your children as heirs, they are not paying tax either. During your lifetime your goal is to pay little to no income tax and you are a millionaire.

So yeah, this system needs to be reformed.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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But the arguments against upending favorable real estate tax policy are numerous. They do pay all their local property taxes and help fund schools, they also maintain the properties and provide places to live for people.

But I say, why cant the average family have the same opportunity? Just buy your own home over time and own it outright. When its paid off, no more payments plus you have capital appreciation and its a place to live. That is the way it should be. Not some guy who wants a bazillion Air BNBs because its making him fucking rich.

Whereas the average family might have paid $800 to $1200 a month for a 1-4 family home, because of investor demand, it would now cost $2500 a month or more.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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In 1986 they tried to reform the excesses of favorable tax treatment of real estate investing. It led to many bankruptcies, the RE crash of 1986 and many argue the S&L crises of the early 1990s.
 
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