Are we sure it's a Van Gogh derivative. It can be a Lucienne derivative as well. Lucienne had a lot of power features added to it.
Anandtech's article on Lucienne
Are we sure it's a Van Gogh derivative. It can be a Lucienne derivative as well. Lucienne had a lot of power features added to it.The design decision in that case is between increasing density (smaller die, higher power efficiency at lower frequency but earlier hard wall for higher frequency) and increasing frequency (lower density thus moving the hard wall higher, but then requiring a bigger die).
Since Mendocino is being positioned as a budget part from the beginning I'd expect AMD to have picked the former choice. If it were a straight port of Van Gogh it'd have lower density allowing higher frequency similar to the improvement Zen+ offered. But if Mendocino is indeed only ~100mm² I'd expect it to be all new or significantly cut down from Van Gogh which was previously reported to be ~163mm² in size.
Lucienne is still Vega, Van Gogh and Mendocino are RDNA2.Are we sure it's a Van Gogh derivative. It can be a Lucienne derivative as well. Lucienne had a lot of power features added to it.
Anandtech's article on Lucienne
It's neither. The die is too small to be Van Gogh as well - around 100mm^2 from initial estinates.Are we sure it's a Van Gogh derivative. It can be a Lucienne derivative as well. Lucienne had a lot of power features added to it.
Anandtech's article on Lucienne
I don't think these will be Ryzen branded at all.
I don't think these will be Ryzen branded at all.
Anthony gold, 4/8, biggest iGPU.
Anthony silver 2/4, cut down iGPU.
Maybe a pro SKU for business as well.
No, for the simple reason that contemporary Ryzen products will be 2 full core generations ahead of it. I do concede that they might do a Ryzen 3 4325 model or something similar, but, with different graphics IP and DDR5, that makes less sense.You have to think the quad core will be Ryzen 3.
I bet there will be OEM-only Pro models for desktop again. 😏I should add that I don't think it's a given there will be desktop models. At least right away. The leaky stuff could be sold to OEMs for All in Ones.
While most people would probably agree this type of SKU isn't needed anymore, is there really a case of die harvesting that leaves a chip like this without SMT, or is it purely artificial segmentation?....
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- Athlon Silver - Being Dual Core without HT with RDNA2 with 2 CUs
I feel that it would be purely artificial. I sincerely hope that they don't release a 2C/2T. The 3020e is a 2c/2T, and the 3050e is a 2C/4T. I found myself CPU-bottlenecked fairly often with the 2C/2T, whereas the 2C/4T was smooth most of the time.While most people would probably agree this type of SKU isn't needed anymore, is there really a case of die harvesting that leaves a chip like this without SMT, or is it purely artificial segmentation?
No, for the simple reason that contemporary Ryzen products will be 2 full core generations ahead of it.
I feel that it would be purely artificial. I sincerely hope that they don't release a 2C/2T. The 3020e is a 2c/2T, and the 3050e is a 2C/4T. I found myself CPU-bottlenecked fairly often with the 2C/2T, whereas the 2C/4T was smooth most of the time.
Hm, probably only 1WGP/2CU RDNA2 iGPU for Mendocino APU.
No public access to that tweet. If that's the case I'm expecting the same iGPU block to be used on the Raphael IOD as well.Hm, probably only 1WGP/2CU RDNA2 iGPU for Mendocino APU.
I simply not believe this.Hm, probably only 1WGP/2CU RDNA2 iGPU for Mendocino APU.
I simply not believe this.
Because there's a bunch of stuff they decided not to scale down. Display and media engines, that sort of thing.If it's really 2CU and single channel only... kind of wonder why it isn't even smaller than 100 mm2.
Because there's a bunch of stuff they decided not to scale down. Display and media engines, that sort of thing.
If it's really 2CU and single channel only... kind of wonder why it isn't even smaller than 100 mm2.