I haven’t seen examples with AM5. The only reason to use it on this socket is maybe to make it easier to clean up thermal pasteI was more concerned about stories of the CPUs warping.
You can get a guard to do that without needing the contact frame too if you're concerned about the thermal paste.I haven’t seen examples with AM5. The only reason to use it on this socket is maybe to make it easier to clean up thermal paste
Yep, that’s what I have on my 7800x3D.You can get a guard to do that without needing the contact frame too if you're concerned about the thermal paste.
Its $2 more for the contact frame !You can get a guard to do that without needing the contact frame too if you're concerned about the thermal paste.
But doesn't require you to change the ILM.Its $2 more for the contact frame !
Welcome to AM5!I grew tired of waiting for the new gen boards, so I bought the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WIFI.
Nice, I guess your next upgrade is Zen6.I grew tired of waiting for the new gen boards, so I bought the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WIFI. I need to flash to the latest bios but everything seems to be on point. Scores right where it should in 3DMark tests. 32GB T-Create CL30 6000, 7900XTX, PCIe 4.0 nvmes, 11 pro.
Memory training did not take any longer than AM4 and it boots to windows fairly expeditiously. Not quite as fast as AM4 but far from the whinging about it I always read.
While I was comparing other boards on Amazon the stock dropped to 2 of these left. Everyone was buying it Saturday, so I pulled the trigger before it could go OOS.
I grew tired of waiting for the new gen boards, so I bought the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WIFI. I need to flash to the latest bios but everything seems to be on point. Scores right where it should in 3DMark tests. 32GB T-Create CL30 6000, 7900XTX, PCIe 4.0 nvmes, 11 pro.
Memory training did not take any longer than AM4 and it boots to windows fairly expeditiously. Not quite as fast as AM4 but far from the whinging about it I always read.
While I was comparing other boards on Amazon the stock dropped to 2 of these left. Everyone was buying it Saturday, so I pulled the trigger before it could go OOS.
7600X3D on the way -
Tell me you don't want to sell the 9600X but don't tell me.
7600X3D on the way -
Tell me you don't want to sell the 9600X but don't tell me.
Also why I'll probably buy the last generation 3D cache CPU for AM5 once AM6 has launched. I'll doubt my CPU will be a limiting factor in any meaningful way until that time.Ryzen...the cpu you buy the previous gen of, even 2 years into its lifecycle. Yet another data point in why I regret building any Ryzen system for the first 1-2 years since its birth in 2017. That and always buy for longevity during gluts in supply thus low prices.
The most interesting question is going to be, where will it fall in the price stack. Given the past 3 years or so of Ryzen pricing, AMD will probably start this at $300 USD and drop it down to $250 in 3-6 months.
I don't regret any of the dozens of AM4 CPUs I have used. If I had bought a 4/4 or 6/6 i5 at similar pricing I'd of regretted those most. Or a 4/8 or 8/8 i7. How insulting it would be that the flagship I shelled out for, would be an i3 a few short years later. ☠️Ryzen...the cpu you buy the previous gen of, even 2 years into its lifecycle. Yet another data point in why I regret building any Ryzen system for the first 1-2 years since its birth in 2017. That and always buy for longevity during gluts in supply thus low prices.
The most interesting question is going to be, where will it fall in the price stack. Given the past 3 years or so of Ryzen pricing, AMD will probably start this at $300 USD and drop it down to $250 in 3-6 months.
Until Zen 4 stock lastsZen 5 is the first one worth skipping for most of us.
Maybe we/retail are not the main target for Zen 5. Prebuilt makers love the new shiny to advertise. It is good on performance and power usage, and has that bigger number better for the stickers.Until Zen 4 stock lasts
Or maybe we may see it go the other way. AMD, seeing that their new desktop CPUs on the more expensive process aren't selling that well, decide to cut orders or revise Zen 5 with a new stepping.
One of those two things needs to happen. Otherwise I don't see how they can hope to keep producing Zen 5 when it isn't radically fast and it will just adorn store shelves while at the same time, keep churning out Zen 4 chips. Most people will pick Zen 4 over 5 due to the lower price.
I guess it depends on production cost of zen5 vs zen4and the margins AMD can rake in on the desktop platform. If production cost is the same or close to, they can adjust prices for Zen5 and slowly stop production of zen4.Maybe we/retail are not the main target for Zen 5. Prebuilt makers love the new shiny to advertise. It is good on performance and power usage, and has that bigger number better for the stickers.
If few by AM5, AMD will just do this with all of that Zen 3 money -
Datacentres. Heck, Zen4 was aimed at them too. Raphael was good but Genoa was fantastic.Maybe we/retail are not the main target for Zen 5.
I understand their thought process behind it but I think they should have just moved on. Cooler manufacturers could have come out with an adapter for AM5 mounting. So while it saved some AM5 owners a few bucks not having to buy a cooler it cost everyone that has an AM5 chip some cooling capacity. So the benefit for some outweighed the benefit for all. That being said, I never hit the thermal limit on my 7700 with a 100W PPT limit. In fact in real world use I rarely hit 80C and that's with a 360 AIO with the fans set for "quiet" operation. They don't really ramp up until I would get to 90C.I am really bowled over how cool this 7600X runs just sitting at the desktop with only a browser running. This with a full vanilla windows 11 all updated - windows power plan on balanced. As low as 31.6C is astonishing compared to my 9700X with its stock IHS but under a tower cooler & same TIM as the 7600X, that would be idling at about 40C with just an idle desktop & that's with adjustments to PBO & negative voltage values - both systems in a closed up case as well & same OS.
AMD really screwed up with the 3.5mm thick IHS on stock chips! It can be argued if that was a good move or not but the fact still stands it is a hinderance to sustained PBO clocks if something is not done about lowering the thickness of the IHS. Curve optimizer has its limits & its not a be all to solving the problem.
I am really bowled over how cool this 7600X runs just sitting at the desktop with only a browser running. This with a full vanilla windows 11 all updated - windows power plan on balanced. As low as 31.6C is astonishing compared to my 9700X with its stock IHS but under a tower cooler & same TIM as the 7600X, that would be idling at about 40C with just an idle desktop & that's with adjustments to PBO & negative voltage values - both systems in a closed up case as well & same OS.
AMD really screwed up with the 3.5mm thick IHS on stock chips! It can be argued if that was a good move or not but the fact still stands it is a hinderance to sustained PBO clocks if something is not done about lowering the thickness of the IHS. Curve optimizer has its limits & its not a be all to solving the problem.
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3.4hrs of prime 95 blend - all bios options on complete stock. Fan profiles on standard.
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Which one?