Question Zen 4 builders thread

[Markfw]

I know its early, but as someone pointed out, I better get my ram now before the scalpers are all over it.

To go with a 7950x, what do you think of this ram:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374369?Item=N82E16820374369

(edited for my best recommendation, 12/5/2023)

 

[lopri]

I went with the Gigabyte board for my daughter's build which has a few more USB 3 ports on the back over the ASRock. Also has WiFi, 3 PCIe x16 slots though 2 run at x1, 3 m.2, and 4 SATA. $229 but has a $10 rebate.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168131...m_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-145-412-_-12132022

Newegg reviews are very positive. Gigabyte boards seem more reasonably priced. I will pay more attention to their boards next time.

 

[lopri]

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

This board also catches my eye, it's an ASRock B650 LiveMixer. No wifi, but other than that, it has three PCI-E 4.0 x16 (physical, last two are x4), three x4 NVMe (one PCI-E 5.0, two PCI-E 4.0), front USB 3.0 and Type-C, plenty of USB in back, though most are USB 2.0 (?). Bios flashback.

Edit: Oh, if PCI-E_3 slot is filled, M2_C is disabled, and vice-versa. So you get either/or 3x PCI-E 4.0 slots (and 2x NVMe), or 3x NVMe (and 2x PCI-E 4.0 slots).

Edit: Only two traditional SATA ports.


$209 right now, too.

Is that a real paint job or stickers?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Is that a real paint job or stickers?

I don't know, haven't seen it yet in person. If that's real paint, color me impressed. I don't know which would result in better thermals for underlying heatsinks, though.

 

[lopri]

It's gotta be painting/printing of sort. If it's stickers, glue will melt like butter. lol

 

[Det0x]

Did a 4k x265 benchmark run over at a other forum, but i guess i can share results here also since pretty decent the latency numbers

 

[AdamK47]

Still testing with PBO CO per core values five days later. Testing CoreCycler using iterations of Prime95 and iterations of YCruncher.

These are the negative offsets I have so far:
0 - 10
1 - 10
2 - 30
3 - 20
4 - 15
5 - 15
6 - 0
7 - 5
8 - 20
9 - 15
10 - 10
11 - 15
12 - 25
13 - 10
14 - 5
15 - 20

Only one core does -30. One core doesn't like any negative offset.

 

[biostud]

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

This board also catches my eye, it's an ASRock B650 LiveMixer. No wifi, but other than that, it has three PCI-E 4.0 x16 (physical, last two are x4), three x4 NVMe (one PCI-E 5.0, two PCI-E 4.0), front USB 3.0 and Type-C, plenty of USB in back, though most are USB 2.0 (?). Bios flashback.

Edit: Oh, if PCI-E_3 slot is filled, M2_C is disabled, and vice-versa. So you get either/or 3x PCI-E 4.0 slots (and 2x NVMe), or 3x NVMe (and 2x PCI-E 4.0 slots).

Edit: Only two traditional SATA ports.


$209 right now, too.

I'm looking at the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi for my build, but I also have a dedicated sound card.

 

[lopri]

I installed an M.2 in the slot that comes out of B650E, and it (the chipset) is now at 80C doing absolutely nothing. Is there anything that runs cool on this platform?

Edit: Actually I was running y-cruncher, but that shouldn't affect the "south bridge," I think?

 

[Bigos]

I apologize if that was mentioned here before, but do you know of some sort of ddr5 on am5 tuning guide? I plan on making a build near Christmas and would like to prepare. I got some non-expo memory for cheap and wanted to at least maintain the advertised frequency and timings.

The RAM is G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB 5200MHz CL36. This will work on MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi and 7700x.

 

[lopri]

Not that I know of. I had XMP/EXPO as a starting point and tightened things from there. Also I figured whatever DDR4 timing x 2 would be safe (lol) and that was another guide post. Between the two sets I have, since Samsung-based sticks do lesser timings, the EXPO profile that came with those were the base I built on. Currently my stable timings are:



I think your memory sticks are in all likelihood cut from the same clothes as my EXPO kit, and they should do 6000/CL36 without a problem. MSI board usually come with plenty of presets for memory timings, and they tend to be aggressive, so I would start in small steps, e.g. EXPO profile first. From what I heard DDR5 chips are rather consistent in their clocking potential, and most chips should do 6000 MT/s with proper voltages. If you are uncomfortable, you can apply EXPO timings, then lower the frequency in BIOS to match your sticks' rated speed and move up from there. Timings and frequencies are not tied together in BIOS, and you can use whatever timings you want with any frequency.

Edit: Google search found this:

https://skatterbencher.com/2022/09/26/raphael-overclocking-whats-new/

Overwhelming length! I might read up on it over the weekend.

 

[lopri]

Did a 4k x265 benchmark run over at a other forum, but i guess i can share results here also since pretty decent the latency numbers
View attachment 72891

BTW cpuz shows 3100 uclk and Zentimings 3200 (?)

 

[Det0x]

BTW cpuz shows 3100 uclk and Zentimings 3200 (?)

Zentimings is the correct one


"6000MT/s" + 2033mhz FCLK = real 6100MT/s memory clockspeed
"6200MT/s" + 2100mhz FCLK = real 6300MT/s memory clockspeed
"6200MT/s" + 2133mhz FCLK = real 6400MT/s memory clockspeed
"6400MT/s" + 2167mhz FCLK = real 6500MT/s memory clockspeed

Latest Zentimings // remove .txt

 

[lopri]

That is interesting. I wonder what is happening under the hood.

 

[lopri]

edit: never mind, I’m stupid

 

[DrMrLordX]

Hopefully someone will produce a tool like Ryzen Memory Calculator that works for AMD DDR5 controllers.

 

[alexruiz]

Newegg reviews are very positive. Gigabyte boards seem more reasonably priced. I will pay more attention to their boards next time.

It is a very good board.
The B650 Aorus elite ax might be the best value for the money on AM5 right now.

 

[biostud]

It is a very good board.
The B650 Aorus elite ax might be the best value for the money on AM5 right now.

The x16 is only 4.0, while the ASRock B650E PG Riptide for the same price has 5.0. But then the ASRock has cut some other corners. So it depends what features you prefer.

 

[lopri]

I got these. What a pain to apply one.

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TITAN RIG specializes in quality PC water cooling parts and accessories. Shop top brands like Alphacool, EKWB, Watercool, and more with a 90-day return policy.

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[Markfw]

I got these. What a pain to apply one.

Search results for: 'thermal grizzly amd ryzen 7000 cpu guard 03 80 tg 0151 01 on'

TITAN RIG specializes in quality PC water cooling parts and accessories. Shop top brands like Alphacool, EKWB, Watercool, and more with a 90-day return policy.

www.titanrig.com

Well, not that it does not do some good, but I have 3 7950x and none of these and no problems at all..

 

[lopri]

It helps stabilizing the memory controller. I am now doing 6200 MT/s with 4 sticks.




lol joke aside if you want to try it out let me know it came in 3-pack and I have no use for the other 2.

 

[Det0x]

Will need some time to fully stabilize this, but finally broke 100k mb/s writespeed
FCLK @ 2200mhz
MCLK @ 6600MT/s

 

[lightmanek]

Congratz Det0x!!
This is just unreal

 

[lightmanek]

Double post due to forum issue

 

[DrMrLordX]

Not to drag things off topic but is Anandtech having problems? I see multiple double posts on the forums from the last few minutes.

 

[Markfw]

Not to drag things off topic but is Anandtech having problems? I see multiple double posts on the forums from the last few minutes.

its been slow earlier.