Enabling EXPO probably upped the power draw of non-core components which cut down on the available portion of the overall power budget (200W). Faster/lower latency RAM usually doesn't help much in CBR23 if memory serves correctly.
CB R23 MT score was initially about 41500 but that dropped to 40600 once I loaded everything up and strangely enabled EXPO memory, which I thought would have bumped the score a bit. Looks like there is a 200W package power limit in the BiOS somewhere because it bumps that in HWinfo. Average clock during the run was 4.7GHz at 88C MT, and 5.64GHz ST.
I have had to using the option to use legacy, and the win 11 thing also needs a lock on the drive or something. Others may be able to help more, I won't touch win 11 for these reasonsWorked all day on taking my system apart and putting it back together. Every first time boot after a motherboard/cpu upgrade is always stressful. Especially when you only build a rig once every 5-6 years. Machine powers on! Bootable windows 11 usb made with rufus loads up. Go through all the options, pick my new nvme drive and... "Windows 11 failed to install". No error message or something to work with or anything. Hm. Tried a different drive to install onto and that didn't work either. Google says to try unhooking other drives and that doesn't work either. Sigh. I'll look into making a new bootable drive from my laptop tomorrow and see if that's the issue. Too tired to monkey around with this thing any more tonight.
Ha ha, that's funny. I have been buying a lot of CPU's lately. Over the last 3 years I went from 12700K to 13900K (full refund from Intel of $611) to 13600K to 14900K (full refund from Intel $561) to 14700K to 14600K. Pat would be proud of me as I did 6 cores in 3 years.Only drawback: there are no yearly refreshes so Hulk can't keep buying new CPUs every year now. Gonna have to go to 9950X3D or a Threadripper.
Please keep updated, my 2nd WD 850x 4TB drive arrived and I want to use 1 for OS and 1 for storage, both M.2. I have to remake 1 or 2 acrylic tubes to complete. I used RUFUS to install on my AM3+ board so, looking forward to your solution.Worked all day on taking my system apart and putting it back together. Every first time boot after a motherboard/cpu upgrade is always stressful. Especially when you only build a rig once every 5-6 years. Machine powers on! Bootable windows 11 usb made with rufus loads up. Go through all the options, pick my new nvme drive and... "Windows 11 failed to install". No error message or something to work with or anything. Hm. Tried a different drive to install onto and that didn't work either. Google says to try unhooking other drives and that doesn't work either. Sigh. I'll look into making a new bootable drive from my laptop tomorrow and see if that's the issue. Too tired to monkey around with this thing any more tonight.
My first AMD processors were in the Athlon K7 and Athlon 64 era, which were generally superior to the Intel stuff at the time. But they really fell behind Intel for a long time after 2005 or so. I agree that the heat is a much bigger problem than power use, especially in the summer.It was really hard to convince myself to move from Intel I have to admit. AMD? AMD? My mind is like still in the mid '90's. K5 and K6 with decent int performance and subpar fp performance and frequency. I had to overcome those old thoughts and preconceptions and just take the leap. So glad I did. Thank you to everyone here who helped me along the way. After going through so many Raptors for me the problem with them wasn't the high power consumption, that you can deal with, it's the heat that is the result of the high power consumption. Without pretty serious cooling you can't achieve the performance Zen 5 can get with much less power and heat. Plus, pushing the cores can and often does lead to degradation.
I updated the bios and made a new bootable usb win11 install with the media creation and it worked. I'm home free! ...or rather, I would be. But it seems that windows 11 refused to finish installing unless it can connect to the internet. And it can't connect to the internet because the basic windows default driver for ethernet is apparently not a thing any more. But it can load drivers from a USB, but can't load drivers from the USB because the drivers I preemptively downloaded onto my spare drive is showing no drivers when I open the folder. Sigh. Will monkey around some more in the morning... I have half a mind to just make a windows 10 bootable and upgrade to 11 later. Sheesh. No wonder nobody wants this blasted PoS OS.Maybe try a usb created with the windows media creation tool. Definately only have one drive installed for windows setup, saves a lot of problems usually.
Sadly, you won't get any performance enhancing updates backported to Windows 10 once it goes out of support. For gaming, it seems Win11 is a necessary evil.I have half a mind to just make a windows 10 bootable and upgrade to 11 later. Sheesh. No wonder nobody wants this blasted PoS OS.
You mean the performance updates with which Win11 still has not been able to catch up to Win10 perf wise in games?Sadly, you won't get any performance enhancing updates backported to Windows 10 once it goes out of support. For gaming, it seems Win11 is a necessary evil.
Maybe they might come once Microsoft relegates Win10 to security only updates.You mean the performance updates with which Win11 still has not been able to catch up to Win10 perf wise in games?
Worked all day on taking my system apart and putting it back together. Every first time boot after a motherboard/cpu upgrade is always stressful. Especially when you only build a rig once every 5-6 years. Machine powers on! Bootable windows 11 usb made with rufus loads up. Go through all the options, pick my new nvme drive and... "Windows 11 failed to install". No error message or something to work with or anything. Hm. Tried a different drive to install onto and that didn't work either. Google says to try unhooking other drives and that doesn't work either. Sigh. I'll look into making a new bootable drive from my laptop tomorrow and see if that's the issue. Too tired to monkey around with this thing any more tonight.
Maybe try a usb created with the windows media creation tool. Definately only have one drive installed for windows setup, saves a lot of problems usually.
Amazing.I haven't done a fresh install of windows in maybe 15 years. I always just migrate the same install across different hardware.
They're fixing performance problems that Windows 10 doesn't have to begin with.Maybe they might come once Microsoft relegates Win10 to security only updates.
Maybe too much reliance on Windows Insiders.however they're dogfooding it no one seems to notice.
Give it another try to a Rufus made USB with the updated BIOS (with the online account requirement disabled).
If still does not work, you should be able to bypass that even when using a USB made using Microsoft Media Creation Tool:
- When it asks to connect to a network, press Shift+F10.
- In the command prompt which opens enter "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" command.
(it might be necessary to use the full path: %systemroot%\System32\oobe\BypassNRO.cmd or cd to that folder first).
- After the reboot, you should be able to skip the online account (and a "I don't have Internet" option should be available).
Yep. My experience precisely. Win11 boot crashed right after I hit install and while the media creation tool made an 11 bootable that worked, it just ended up hitting its own brick wall in the home stretch on account of the the arbitrary online requirement. I had just finished using media creation to make a Windows 10 bootable when I used the kernal command work around that Seba posted and it worked. A cynical part of me almost wishes he hadn't, if only to savor windows 10 bliss for nine more months.I used the lastest Win11 with the lastest rufus and also got install failed errors.
I then used windows media creation tool and no problem.
YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER!!! IT WORKED!
Why in blazes doesn't Microsoft make this option available by default instead of burying it in kernal commands... If I had this much trouble with an install I can't even imagine the kind of chicken and the egg conundrums laymen are having.
Not sure what the issue is, I used RUFUS with all checkboxes to install on AM3+ mobo with 4x128GB RAID drives all check boxes checked, and no problemo.Yep. My experience precisely. Win11 boot crashed right after I hit install and while the media creation tool made an 11 bootable that worked, it just ended up hitting its own brick wall in the home stretch on account of the the arbitrary online requirement. I had just finished using media creation to make a Windows 10 bootable when I used the kernal command work around that Seba posted and it worked. A cynical part of me almost wishes he hadn't, if only to savor windows 10 bliss for nine more months.
On a lighter note, I feel like I'm proposing to my new Gaming PC with this ram/box. XD
Will you be my Gaming PC?
They are doing exactly what Microsoft and Intel want them to do. They are buying new pre-built computers from Dell, HP, or whatever.
YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER!!! IT WORKED!
Why in blazes doesn't Microsoft make this option available by default instead of burying it in kernal commands... If I had this much trouble with an install I can't even imagine the kind of chicken and the egg conundrums laymen are having.