I suggest memory test as the first diagnostic step.Finally found out what was causing my FFXIV game to stutter like it was running in 30fps despite it indicating it was running at the 60fps I limited it to. It turns out a Windows setting called "optimizations for windowed games" was the culprit, though according to reports from others it's due to hardware acceleration scheduling. Weird. It doesn't seem to impact ff16 however, so turned off optimizations only for 14.
I was poking around in the bios and saw that Ryzen has its own kind of "turbo" by disabling the second ccd and smt. Is it worth it toggle when most of my games are only using about 6 of my processors' 16 threads?
For reasons I haven't yet been able to determine, the machine restarts soon after I turn off my display. At first I thought it was an energy saver feature but I made sure to disable them. My next thought it was the power settings pertaining to sleep/hibernate/turn off displays but they're all set to Never. A google search suggests a problem with drivers. But that can't be right, can it?
Boy just when you think a new system is completely configured it's like there's always these little issues to ironed out for weeks after the fact...
K i'm back from my little time away from this forum (have been crazy busy testing new stuff lately)
Saw this interesting video a few days back which i recommend to new users on the AMD platfrom
Disabling power monitoring in afterburner or switch to capframex solves the so called "amdip" đź‘Ť
It adds like 4 cycles of extra latency...The L3 3D-vache is slower than normal L3 cache and takes longer to load assets when travelling through zones
I'm probably the only one around here that's more jealous of the audio rack than the PC upgrade. How's the Warm Audio API clone hold up against the Vintech and Daking pres? Are those the "T" versions of the Comp II/ Pre II? Love the mix of Trident, Neve, and API type preamps. I've lusted over a setup like that forevever but could never justify the expense since I only do music as a hobby these days.It's finished... for now. The Arctic Liquid Freezer III keeps temps at 81 max, 79 average when running CB R24 or R24 at 200W package power. Also, it's much cooler than my Assassin air cooler. Since it has more thermal mass the fans don't spike up and down every time there is a "bursty" need for compute. It was tricky getting the AI in there. There wasn't room for the lower fan on the inside part of the case due to the opening for the power supply not being quite big enough. It will fit normal size radiators but the Liquid Freezers are deeper than most AIO's. I had to put one outside under the grill and the other inside. Top pull and bottom push so the radiator is getting external air. That's just about all I can fit in this case but I am thinking of adding a top 120mm fan and eventually a stronger GPU.
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This is why I'm using a mATX case. It just fits too nicely under my desk.
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That's a sick setup. I bet it sounds killer.Good catch on seeing I was going for a variety of mic pre tones. Neve, API, and Trident. You obviously know your gear. I really like all of them. . The Daking is the all-arounder. It's really good on everything. The Warm Audio is my favorite for bass and drums. It's thick and punchy. Vintech for vocals generally, it's nice to have the hi/low eq outboard to commit that high end "air" that you generally add later anyway. Plugs are really good these days but there is still a special something to good outboard. Honestly, as you know every singer/instrument and mic combination is different so I'm still trying various combinations of pre's and mics. I was a pro for many years, had a studio in the '90's mainly for my band but also recorded others. Now it's more of a hobby so I pared the gear down to basically this rack. It's a relatively small amount of gear but still provides choices when I do have a more serious project.
One more post on our divergence into audio... As we both know all too well, good player, good instrument, good arrangement, and taking time for mic placement is 1000x more important the mic pres and all the rest of the outboard. While I do notice differences with mic pres, like big power supplies and transformers make a difference with a kick drum, the stock mic pres in my RME interface are solid. Funny you mention the UAD sale because grabbed some plugs as well to add to my collection of Sound Toys, Fabfilter, Softube, Waves (or course right?), Relab Development (LX480 reverb is great), Klanghelm, and Plugin Alliance. It's enough already with the plugins! UAD is my favorite for LA2A, 1176, and Pultec, and I've checked out a lot of them. You "pay" for the UAD stuff in terms of processor load but we have enough to handle it with our Zens. There, I got us back on topic!That's a sick setup. I bet it sounds killer.
I remember back in the day (when I was still trying to make music for a living) I'd put all the gear I was lusting after (that I was too broke to afford) into a cart to see how much my dream setup would cost me. That cart pretty much always had a Daking Mic Pre 4, an API 3124, and 4 channels of Neve clones in it.
I never really did recording/live sound more than semi-professionally and it's really just been a hobby for the last decade. I did get to use all of the nice analog gear when I was in school though. I also had a few chances to do sessions at some word class studios with a bunch of incredible vintage gear. i love nice gear but I always got by doing most of my projects on much more modest stuff at home. Top shelf analog outboard and mics are obviously awesome, but the cheaper stuff has come a long way these days. I seem to have acquired a lot more nice drums, cymbals, guitars, amps, and pedals over the years than recording gear for some reason. I'm a bit obsessed with guitar tone, and I even got into building tube guitar amps for a while, so it kind of checks out. Seeing that I'm a probably a better engineer than drummer/guitar player, I should probably pair some of that stuff down and put together a new tracking setup. I'm just recently getting back into recording and mixing more often. I haven't done a project since before COVID.
You're not kidding about the plugins being really good. i grabbed the UAD signature bundle for $300 recently and I've been remixing some old projects on my 7900X rig. I'm pretty impressed with how good this stuff sounds. I mostly just used stock and free 3rd party plugins for years. I'm still using Pro Tools 2018 and it seems to be working fine for me so I'm not sure if I'm going to renew my perpetual license anytime soon. Avid can pound sand with their subscription. I really don't want to use another DAW after working in PT for 25 years though.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble and veering way off topic here. I imagine that 9950X is killing it in Studio 1. I can barely get my 7900X to 15% CPU usage with a Pro Tools session loaded with plug-ins and a 64 sample buffer. I'm not running a bunch of VI's though. I've been following your Intel saga around here and I'm glad to see you finally made the move over to AMD. That rig should hopefully be way more reliable for you. Congrats on the upgrade.
One more post on our divergence into audio... As we both know all too well, good player, good instrument, good arrangement, and taking time for mic placement is 1000x more important the mic pres and all the rest of the outboard. While I do notice differences with mic pres, like big power supplies and transformers make a difference with a kick drum, the stock mic pres in my RME interface are solid. Funny you mention the UAD sale because grabbed some plugs as well to add to my collection of Sound Toys, Fabfilter, Softube, Waves (or course right?), Relab Development (LX480 reverb is great), Klanghelm, and Plugin Alliance. It's enough already with the plugins! UAD is my favorite for LA2A, 1176, and Pultec, and I've checked out a lot of them. You "pay" for the UAD stuff in terms of processor load but we have enough to handle it with our Zens. There, I got us back on topic!
One more quick thing. If you ever have the urge to record live check out the Soundcraft UI24r stagebox. It's pretty amazing and will record 24 channels into a USB flash drive. I've had good luck with it.
nice find i've always used capframe X so good on this one.K i'm back from my little time away from this forum (have been crazy busy testing new stuff lately)
Saw this interesting video a few days back which i recommend to new users on the AMD platfrom
Disabling power monitoring in afterburner or switch to capframex solves the so called "amdip" đź‘Ť
It definitely isn't the power setting as I have it set to never sleep or hibernate or turn off displays. The AMD drivers are also fresh on a brand new machine.Something to do with the GPU driver and some power setting maybe.
I may have to toggle on the beep in my bios as my tv doesn't light on until just before the bios screen shifts to windows log in when I boot the system.Is it an actual reboot? Do you hear the beep (if you have a MB speaker)?
Or it just requires you to log in?
Probably due to EXPO. Manual timings may bring the temps down a bit.My 9800 is sitting at 47-50 ish idle.
Is it an actual reboot? Do you hear the beep (if you have a MB speaker)?
Or it just requires you to log in?
The Windows system event log may also tell you whether it went through a full system restart or just a logout.I may have to toggle on the beep in my bios as my tv doesn't light on until just before the bios screen shifts to windows log in when I boot the system.
Anyone's 9800X3D seem a bit toasty? My intel 9600k was like 36c at idle. My 9800 is sitting at 47-50 ish idle. It was doing 60c which definitely seemed too hot at idel, but I replaced corsair's garbage AM4/5 bracket that has the loops and just two thumb screws on the water block in favor of their new one that that uses 4 screws for even pressure. I guess it doesn't matter much when my corsair 150i elite 360mm cooler can keep it at 85c under full load in cinebench 2024 with the fans barely hitting 900rpm.
Ran it and got no errors. I got the logs though so perhaps one of you guys can help me figure out why the system blue screens when turning the display off.I suggest memory test as the first diagnostic step.
MS built in diagnostic tool is quite good:
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Log Name: System
Source: volmgr
Date: 1/4/2025 1:29:08 AM
Event ID: 162
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Katie-PC
Description:
Dump file generation succeded.
Event Xml:
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<Computer>Katie-PC</Computer>
<Security />
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<EventData>
<Data>\Device\HarddiskVolume3</Data>
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Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-WER-SystemErrorReporting
Date: 1/4/2025 1:29:20 AM
Event ID: 1001
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Katie-PC
Description:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000003b (0x00000000c0000005, 0xfffff80385513a7a, 0xffffdd8d8171e140, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\010425-15343-01.dmp. Report Id: 767f8b65-626d-4ab0-8fe9-fcd2ee566b04.
Event Xml:
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<EventData>
<Data Name="param1">0x0000003b (0x00000000c0000005, 0xfffff80385513a7a, 0xffffdd8d8171e140, 0x0000000000000000)</Data>
<Data Name="param2">C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\010425-15343-01.dmp</Data>
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Log Name: Security
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Eventlog
Date: 1/4/2025 1:29:20 AM
Event ID: 1101
Task Category: Event processing
Level: Error
Keywords: Audit Success
User: N/A
Computer: Katie-PC
Description:
Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0
Event Xml:
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<System>
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<EventID>1101</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>101</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
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<EventRecordID>60608</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="3244" ThreadID="3560" />
<Channel>Security</Channel>
<Computer>Katie-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<UserData>
<AuditEventsDropped xmlns="http://manifests.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/windows/eventlog">
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</Event>
Log Name: System
Source: EventLog
Date: 1/4/2025 1:29:20 AM
Event ID: 6008
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Katie-PC
Description:
The previous system shutdown at 1:15:48 AM on ‎1/‎4/‎2025 was unexpected.
Event Xml:
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<Provider Name="EventLog" />
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<Version>0</Version>
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<Channel>System</Channel>
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<Data>1:15:48 AM</Data>
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Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-TPM-WMI
Date: 1/4/2025 1:31:21 AM
Event ID: 1796
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Katie-PC
Description:
The Secure Boot update failed to update a Secure Boot variable with error The parameter is incorrect.. For more information, please see https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2169931
Event Xml:
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Ran it and got no errors. I got the logs though so perhaps one of you guys can help me figure out why the system blue screens when turning the display off.
It's normal, mine is the same. The 7800X3D was like this too. The idle power usage is a bit high on this platform in general. Load temps are 70-75C on air cooling.
My 7800X3D (well 7950X3D with one chiplet turned off) 55C idle, power 40W (as reported by Core Temps), memory is EXPO 6400.
Seems ok temps, it's silicon not tap water...
WhoCrashed is also very easy to use for bluescreen diagnostic :
Crash Dump Analysis
Crash dumps are enabled on your computer. This system is not configured for complete or automatic crash dumps. For best results, configure your system to write out complete or automatic crash dumps. Select Tools->Crash Dump Configuration from the main menu to configure your system to write out complete memory dumps.
Crash dump directories:
C:\WINDOWS
C:\WINDOWS\Minidump
On Sat 1/4/2025 1:28:45 AM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
Crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\010425-15343-01.dmp (Minidump) Bugcheck code: 0x3B(0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF80385513A7A, 0xFFFFDD8D8171E140, 0x0) Bugcheck name: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Driver or module in which error occurred: ks.sys (ks+53a7a) File path: ks.sys Description: Kernel CSA Library Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Company: Microsoft Corporation Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code. Analysis: This is a typical software problem. Most likely this is caused by a bug in a driver. The crash took place in a Microsoft module. Possibly this problem was caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
On Thu 1/2/2025 10:49:53 AM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
Crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\010225-14937-01.dmp (Minidump) Bugcheck code: 0x3B(0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF80047F13A7A, 0xFFFFFE81EC0AE140, 0x0) Bugcheck name: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Driver or module in which error occurred: ks.sys (ks+53a7a) File path: ks.sys Description: Kernel CSA Library Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Company: Microsoft Corporation Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code. Analysis: This is a typical software problem. Most likely this is caused by a bug in a driver. The crash took place in a Microsoft module. Possibly this problem was caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
On Thu 1/2/2025 11:26:51 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
Crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\010225-15140-01.dmp (Minidump) Bugcheck code: 0x3B(0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF806106B3A7A, 0xFFFFC4811917E140, 0x0) Bugcheck name: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Driver or module in which error occurred: ks.sys (ks+53a7a) File path: ks.sys Description: Kernel CSA Library Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Company: Microsoft Corporation Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code. Analysis: This is a typical software problem. Most likely this is caused by a bug in a driver. The crash took place in a Microsoft module. Possibly this problem was caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
On Sat 12/28/2024 10:42:46 AM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
Crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\122824-15859-01.dmp (Minidump) Bugcheck code: 0x3B(0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF80076A83A7A, 0xFFFFE401C01E6140, 0x0) Bugcheck name: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Driver or module in which error occurred: ks.sys (ks+53a7a) File path: ks.sys Description: Kernel CSA Library Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Company: Microsoft Corporation Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code. Analysis: This is a typical software problem. Most likely this is caused by a bug in a driver. The crash took place in a Microsoft module. Possibly this problem was caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
On Fri 12/27/2024 6:34:46 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
Crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\122724-17046-01.dmp (Minidump) Bugcheck code: 0x3B(0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF80616B23A7A, 0xFFFFA08445F1E140, 0x0) Bugcheck name: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Driver or module in which error occurred: ks.sys (ks+53a7a) File path: ks.sys Description: Kernel CSA Library Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Company: Microsoft Corporation Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code. Analysis: This is a typical software problem. Most likely this is caused by a bug in a driver. The crash took place in a Microsoft module. Possibly this problem was caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
Conclusion
5 crash dumps have been found and analyzed. No offending third party drivers have been found. Consider using WhoCrashed Professional which offers more detailed analysis using symbol resolution. Also configuring your system to produce a full memory dump may help you.
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Is that an app that works on Win11? I'm seeing some results on google but not a download page.@Sonikku
Use BlueScreenView and open the dump C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\010425-15343-01.dmp if it still exists.
It should have a stack trace pointing to a module/driver which "caused" the crash.
Yes: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bluescreenview-x64.zipIs that an app that works on Win11? I'm seeing some results on google but not a download page.
I think it turns off SMT.Does anyone know what the "X3D Gaming Mode" bios option does?