That comparison doesn't make sense. Apple's is a phone SoC that they scaled up and it doesn't run x86 software. AMD doesn't see Apple as a threat and hence that's not their competition. Intel is.Now also AMD cannot match Apple because reasons.
Context is PPC or IPC, whatever you want to call it and AMD's ability (disability) to match those of apple cores, even if Zen5 is high clocking core.That comparison doesn't make sense. Apple's is a phone SoC that they scaled up and it doesn't run x86 software. AMD doesn't see Apple as a threat and hence that's not their competition. Intel is.
I think if Apple's current performance stagnation continues, they might introduce Macbook Pros with Zen 5.
Apple had a lot of opportunities to use AMD. They never did. Even less now that they have their own CPUs. It wouldn't make any sense.That comparison doesn't make sense. Apple's is a phone SoC that they scaled up and it doesn't run x86 software. AMD doesn't see Apple as a threat and hence that's not their competition. Intel is.
I think if Apple's current performance stagnation continues, they might introduce Macbook Pros with Zen 5.
It could if Strix Halo offered 20% higher GB6 ST than Zen 4. Apple ain't getting there anytime soon.It wouldn't make any sense.
They won't.That comparison doesn't make sense. Apple's is a phone SoC that they scaled up and it doesn't run x86 software. AMD doesn't see Apple as a threat and hence that's not their competition. Intel is.
I think if Apple's current performance stagnation continues, they might introduce Macbook Pros with Zen 5.
Some posts remind me of Zen1 prelaunch discussions, when AMD could not match broadwell/skylake because reasons.
How would that work? Apple is all-in on their own ARM implementation, and they're using in all of their products. Going back to x86 doesn't make sense.That comparison doesn't make sense. Apple's is a phone SoC that they scaled up and it doesn't run x86 software. AMD doesn't see Apple as a threat and hence that's not their competition. Intel is.
I think if Apple's current performance stagnation continues, they might introduce Macbook Pros with Zen 5.
Every odd number core is shiny new.What really applies to Zen5, is that it is supposedly going to be no longer derivative of Zen
oh man LNL-M will shatter your dreams and ruin your nightmaresthat are not only limited to PCs with their thermal envelopes.
Great, cannot wait.oh man LNL-M will shatter your dreams and ruin your nightmares
Every odd number core is shiny new.
Their software side is architecture agnostic. If there's a compelling reason to switch, I don't see why they would hesitate.Going back to x86 doesn't make sense.
It's <10W TDP, so performance will be pretty limited, but for office laptops It should be enough.oh man LNL-M will shatter your dreams and ruin your nightmares
You are forgetting 443 config, that's mean LNL-M most likely has the most powerful graphics under 17WIt's <10W TDP, so performance will be pretty limited, but for office laptops It should be enough.
I personally would choose something more performant with 35-65W.
And that is 128EU or 192EU? With that power limit you should expect low clocks and performance will be very limited.You are forgetting 443 config, that's mean LNL-M most likely has the most powerful graphics under 17W
Most likely GT3 with 192EU, not sure how difference compared to ARLAnd that is 128EU or 192EU?
17W pkg actually.It's <10W TDP
Yeah, clock speed would be low just like Snapdragon, that's why LNL is rumored to be made by N3B process with 192EU, that would be 1536 ALUAnd that is 128EU or 192EU? With that power limit you should expect low clocks and performance will be very limited.
For handhelds It could be an option.
And max CPU config is 4+4?17W pkg actually.
Yes, except that it's not really true:Their software side is architecture agnostic. If there's a compelling reason to switch, I don't see why they would hesitate.
I'm not saying switch completely. AMD for their Pro line of laptops and desktops (where their users expect for their hard earned cash the latest, greatest and best IPC as well as absolute performance regardless of TDP) and everything else their own silicon. They would be offering their customers choice and they would more than make up for the cost of the external silicon with their price tag.There is exactly a 0% chance of Apple switching from their own silicon to AMD, and anyone who thinks it'll happen should sit in the corner and reevaluate themselves
No, man. What you are asking actually will appear on upcoming MBP, ie. M3 Pro which most likely having 2560ALU which is similar to the Strix Halo. Sure AMD has the CPU core counts advantage (16xZen5 vs 8P+6E), but we are comparing 3 chiplets with one big monolithic die. Apple still has power efficiency SoC which Apple cares the most about.I'm not saying switch completely. AMD for their Pro line of laptops and desktops (where their users expect for their hard earned cash the latest, greatest and best IPC as well as absolute performance regardless of TDP) and everything else their own silicon. They would be offering their customers choice and they would more than make up for the cost of the external silicon with their price tag.
Incorrect.Most likely GT3 with 192EU, not sure how difference compared to ARL
If they wanted to do that they'd just make their own bigger chip or shove an M3 Ultra in there. Apple wants to control their ecosystem as tightly as possible and not need to rely on external vendors whenever possible.I'm not saying switch completely. AMD for their Pro line of laptops and desktops (where their users expect for their hard earned cash the latest, greatest and best IPC as well as absolute performance regardless of TDP) and everything else their own silicon. They would be offering their customers choice and they would more than make up for the cost of the external silicon with their price tag.