Ryzen 8020, 8030, 8035, 8040, 8045 incoming?
(same as 7000 but with the first digit changed)
Maybe he's just tired of bitching about Intel.I think moaning and bitching is just Charlie in general, it’s not something specific to AMD.
No.Anyway, I suppose it's possible Adroc only knows of Turin-D
Yeah it's down in SIR.but if you look at the full context of the whole SMT discussion back then he's clearly claiming that the yield is way down
7700x with officially supported DDR5-5200 has max BW of 83 GB/s. We don't really know how much of that BW is consumed during gaming, yet It still shows Strix Halo will have less than RX7600.RX 7600 and 4600 Ti both seem to have a bandwidth of 288 GB/s
StrixPoint, if using 8533 speed modules would be 273 GB/s
5800x with DDR4-3200 had max bandwidth of 51 GB/s
This is as a comparison, of how much bandwidth CPU can take up, and typically, CPU is a lot more latency constrained than bandwidth constrained. So, CPU typically uses a fraction of the 51 GB/s, and most of the bandwidth would be left to the GPU
I would have liked a combined 96MB MALL for both CPU and IGP instead of 64MB L3 + 32MB IC.There is another, more speculative area. Say the CPU decompresses a texture and writes it to certain memory address. It may be written to MALL cache first. Then CPU sends it to GPU, and it might be possible to the GPU to get it from the MALL instead of getting it from memory.
So, MALL may be more than compensating for memory areas in contention, since MALL bandwidth to GPU is likely >> LPDDR5 bandwidth.
What ridiculous nonsense is this?What are the chances of AMD crippling Zen 5 in firmware, just to avoid giving too much performance for "free" to the masses who ungratefully buy Intel at launch and wait for AMD prices to fall?
Obviously, they are obliged to earn as much possible, as every other company. Whether they want to increase margins or grab market share (or both) that is up to those running AMD. If I had AMD stocks, that is what I would expect them to do.And we have evidence in Zen 3 launch pricing that AMD is perfectly capable of simply charging more if they feel it’s justified.
7700x with officially supported DDR5-5200 has max BW of 83 GB/s. We don't really know how much of that BW is consumed during gaming, yet It still shows Strix Halo will have less than RX7600.
I would have liked a combined 96MB MALL for both CPU and IGP instead of 64MB L3 + 32MB IC.
This time they have bad taste in their mouth due to their Zen 4 experience.And we have evidence in Zen 3 launch pricing that AMD is perfectly capable of simply charging more if they feel it’s justified.
Yeah I get the impression he is anti-AMD.Charlys articles regarding AMD have turned into a joke.
He is constantly moaning and ranting about the smallest things.
He seems to be more on a personal vendetta against AMD instead of just reporting or commenting on their products.
His sources in Intel also seem to have vanished. He is only rehashing Intel press releases and emphasizing the positive bits.
And we have evidence in Zen 3 launch pricing that AMD is perfectly capable of simply charging more if they feel it’s justified.
It would just be a firmware handicap. They can remove it and unlock full performance with a firmware update in case Intel suddenly finds their mojo.There is no reason to cripple their own product.
Isn't fighting paper launch with paper launch just plain dumb? Why not have ACTUAL product and embarrass the hell out of your competitor?That said, the article isn’t complete nonsense.
They would be losing money by artificially crippling their CPU.It would just be a firmware handicap. They can remove it and unlock full performance with a firmware update in case Intel suddenly finds their mojo.
Businesses do not really operate on "taste". And Zen 4 bombed in sales due to expensive platform while not being decidedly better than RPL.This time they have bad taste in their mouth due to their Zen 4 experience.
Why not cripple at 10-15% higher than Intel and still charge more? Unlock more performance later only to fight off some Intel secret weapon. Most gamers will wait for the X3D part anyway.Why would AMD cripple their CPUs that they have ALREADY invested in, instead of simply charging more?
Because Halo effect matters. If your top chip is only 10% faster, then it does not affect sales too much across the lineup. But if you're 30% faster, then your entire lineup sells better. Not to mention that for every 1% of performance advantage, you can charge more than 1% in price.Why not cripple at 10-15% higher than Intel and still charge more? Unlock more performance later only to fight off some Intel secret weapon. Most gamers will wait for the X3D part anyway.
When has this ever happened? What's the point? Ignoring the fact that AMD would get so much bad press, it's much better to just sell more and for more money. Let Intel handle releasing a slower product.Why not cripple at 10-15% higher than Intel and still charge more? Unlock more performance later only to fight off some Intel secret weapon. Most gamers will wait for the X3D part anyway.
Nvidia sandbagging their GPU architectures for few generations now, and then releasing new, refreshed SUPER lineups, anyone?When has this ever happened? What's the point? Ignoring the fact that AMD would get so much bad press, it's much better to just sell more and for more money. Let Intel handle releasing a slower product.
In addition, it hurts you in the future as the press will need to "rebench" everything, but your original benchmarks will already be in the wild...
They did not sell firmware nerfed cards. Also, the 30 series was pretty much pushed to the brink.Nvidia sandbagging their GPU architectures for few generations now, and then releasing new, refreshed SUPER lineups, anyone?
The point stands. Nvidia sold sandbagged cards, one way or another.They did not sell firmware nerfed cards. Also, the 30 series was pretty much pushed to the brink.
For the record, the 2070S used the TU104 vs TU106 that the 2070 used, the 2060S also had a much better hardware configuration than the 2060 (256 bit vs 192 bit) and around 13% more cores.