So it's above 5.3ghz?My numbers are a fair bit below the real ones so you can try guessing either way.
Clocks don't matter.So it's above 5.3ghz?
I'll give you a cookie if you tell me how clock is irrelevantClocks don't matter.
+-2% clk delta on the top end is irrelevant.I'll give you a cookie if you tell me how clock is irrelevant
+-2% clk delta on the top end is irrelevant.
+/- 2% is within margin of error, so badgering him about it is more annoying and wrong IMO. If you were trying to be funny, its not to me, and disrespectful of his leaks, again IMO.That's not what you said. Your curt responses are rather annoying. You said "clocks don't matter" than moved the goalposts to "+/- 2% clock delta on the top end is irrelevant". No cookie for you!
+/- 2% is within margin of error, so badgering him about it is more annoying and wrong IMO. If you were trying to be funny, its not to me, and disrespectful of his leaks, again IMO.
Is MP1 aarch64/arm based as well?It's the PSP implementing ARM's TrustZone using a Cortex-A5.
That's better than those that say >35% - who I think should be shot and then thrown off a cliff ;-) From what has been rumored, same process (mostly), same ~frequency, same approx die size. There is no magic in processor design. Physical and electrical limits cannot be transcended Still, Mike Clarks excitement (atypically just after Zen4 processors were introduced) counts for something.>25%.
TBH it was said in context of how hard is to design and adapt things so many years in advance of the release - when you see the stuff in the design phase it seems to be out of this world compared to what is on the shelves.Still, Mike Clarks excitement (atypically just after Zen4 processors were introduced) counts for something.
Strix Halo should make Fire Range obsolete, when it is released. Unless Fire Range sells for lower price.ze latter, it's a full LLC part after all.
Well no, Strix-Halo is not intended for dGPU luggables. lol.Strix Halo should make Fire Range obsolete, when it is released
Do I always have to ruin your dreams?AMD really needs to make Strix Halo V-Cache compatible
Admit it. You enjoy doing it.Do I always have to ruin your dreams?
Well no, Strix-Halo is not intended for dGPU luggables. lol.
Do I always have to ruin your dreams?
They are very good at that.AMD shooting itself in the foot.
Why don’t we just wait and see how well it performs in the market before suggesting that AMD shot itself in the foot.So then, to release a "Halo" product with this feature missing = AMD shooting itself in the foot.
Well, the Fire Range laptops are likely to have dGPU while Srix Halo not, so that would be the reason to offer both. But really only dGPUs with higher performance than Strix Halo would make sense for OEMs to make
And this is based on what?Well, the Fire Range laptops are likely to have dGPU while Srix Halo not, so that would be the reason to offer both. But really only dGPUs with higher performance than Strix Halo would make sense for OEMs to make.
And AMD shot Itself because?Well, it was not on the roadmap shown by MLID, so I wasn't expecting it. But IMO, it is a mistake.
Very slowly, the V-Cache is getting established as a feature to get the gaming performance among wider and wider audience. It has taken some time, but I think it is happening now.
So then, to release a "Halo" product with this feature missing = AMD shooting itself in the foot.
oh god no, STX-halo is a specialty product that insofar doesn't replace mainstream dGPs.But really only dGPUs with higher performance than Strix Halo would make sense for OEMs to make.
why would you need V$ on a part that's gonna be GPU-limited 98.3% of the time.Very slowly, the V-Cache is getting established as a feature to get the gaming performance among wider and wider audience. It has taken some time, but I think it is happening now.
RDNA3 is anything but tame power consumption, what the hell are you on.They could have made Intel+nGreedia gaming laptops very unattractive for the average gamer by releasing something like a 7800HX3D + RX 7800 non-XT 16GB in a laptop form factor with tame power consumption.
AMD dGP laptop offerings can be counted with a single hand my man.They have every advantage in the world right now with Intel gasping for air from a design standpoint
They are very good at that.
They could have made Intel+nGreedia gaming laptops very unattractive for the average gamer by releasing something like a 7800HX3D + RX 7800 non-XT 16GB in a laptop form factor with tame power consumption. But no. They have every advantage in the world right now with Intel gasping for air from a design standpoint but they will doggedly chase servers despite knowing full well that a lot of companies will pay double for Intel servers that cost double to run.
You mean stop posting / speculating about Strix Halo for a year, until it ships?Why don’t we just wait and see how well it performs in the market before suggesting that AMD shot itself in the foot.
This is gonna sound stupid but I don't think you will see Strix Halo in the gamer brand laptops. So there will be plenty of room for Fire Range.
Instead mainly MBP wannabe $2k+ ones.
And this is based on what?
Do you know how this IGP performs? No
Do you know how much It will cost? No
Yet, you already have a conclusion about Fire Range + weaker dGPUs making no sense for OEMs.
And AMD shot Itself because?
If you say something like this, you should at least back It up with something.
That V-cache is only useful for gaming, but you also need such a GPU, a 40CU IGP is hardly that.
For just the CPU this V-cache is not really important, It doesn't have a big impact on performance, performs like a 300-350MHz higher clocked 7700.
It also doesn't look like It really helps in reducing power consumption. It has only 5W lower power draw in blender than 7700, which can be attributed to lower clocks. TPU
So my conclusion is there is not a good enough reason in using It for Strix Halo.
Fire range is already niche, only used with high end GPUs. you need to compare the cost to Phoenix + dGPU. And Phoenix wins thereWe don't know how AMD is going to price these, but AMD costs of Fire Range + 7600 8 GB of VRAM is likely going to be higher than Strix Halo and deliver lower performance. So a sub-optimal set up.
As I said we don't know how It will really perform or cost compared to CPU+dGPU.The rumors say 6600 to 6700+ level of performance
Or perhaps somewhere between 7600 to 7700 XP, using more recent cards
We don't know how AMD is going to price these, but AMD costs of Fire Range + 7600 8 GB of VRAM is likely going to be higher than Strix Halo and deliver lower performance. So a sub-optimal set up.
Very large notebooks with >= 7700 XP would make more sense.
Intel has nothing comparable to Strix Halo. It can be only CPU+dGPU combo, so fire Range should be Its competitor.You know that Intel is not going to leave anything on the table to get top level performance. AMD has this arrogance (only in client CPU market), that it is ok to leave performance on the table.
TOP Dragon Range is clocked 300MHz lower than desktop counterparts, so It's not exactly the last 300-350MHz.The last 300-350 MHz are always the most costly, as far as power consumption. So being able to perform equally with lower clock speed (and lower power) is what you want in mobile.