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I don't care about that. Fine. I'll do it.how do I even say that without sounding schizo?
Cinebench R15 ST:
Core i7-4770K(Haswell) 3.5-3.9GHz 157p
Ryzen 5 2400G(Zen1) 3.6-3.9GHz 156p
Cinebench R20 ST:
Core i7-4770K(Haswell) 3.5-3.9GHz 365p
Ryzen 5 2400G(Zen1) 3.6-3.9GHz 384p(+5%)
I know that Zen1 has a maximum of 2x128bit. Only Zen2 has 2x256 bit units. Maybe that's where the differences lie, rather than Intel blocking.Even if AMD does well in CB it s still a bench that greatly favour Intel, think that prior to CB 2024 and starting with CB R15 it use Intel s renderer Embree and is compiled with ICC, it s even designed using Intel s Thread Profiler.
Beside that s ST results, in MT the 2400G has superior SMT yield, so you re just looking at one side of the coin with an Intel favouring bench.
You could use Povray for FP , but in that case this soft doesnt use AVX2 for AMD s CPU, wich reduce the score notably even with their older uarches.
Someone in this forum make a test with a recompiled version of povray, actually whenI know that Zen1 has a maximum of 2x128bit. Only Zen2 has 2x256 bit units. Maybe that's where the differences lie, rather than Intel blocking.
Haswell, like subsequent generations, has FP 2x256bit and INT 1x256bit.
Why are you guys bickering about Zen 1 vs Skylake and Haswell, why does it matter in Zen 5 thread? Let's keep this on topic please.
The discussion unnecessarily went too far beyond the thread about Zen5. From now on I'm sticking to the main thread.Why are you guys bickering about Zen 1 vs Skylake and Haswell, why does it matter in Zen 5 thread? Let's keep this on topic please.
Someone in this forum make a test with a recompiled version of povray, actually when
AVX2 is implemented even Zen 1 perform quite better despite the slower exe units since they are 128b, guess that you re making some confusion with SKL wich improved IPC substancially in respect of HW.
Why are you guys bickering about Zen 1 vs Skylake and Haswell, why does it matter in Zen 5 thread? Let's keep this on topic please.
It may use too much power for the cooling solutions and battery they could/would cram into thin n' light products. Unless they power capped it.Btw, wouldn't Strix Halo be a really premium product for thinner systems then?
Depends on the clock speeds.Btw, wouldn't Strix Halo be a really premium product for thinner systems then? Even though it is mostly geared for gaming systems. And even with 40CU, wouldn't it still lag behind 6700 XT unless soldered RAM is used for example due to the bandwidth requirements...
ahh well if so, I'm hoping it doesnt get priced above the RTX xx60/xx70 gaming laptop options, and of course as with AMD supplying enough of them will take so fricking long...It may use too much power for the cooling solutions and battery they could/would cram into thin n' light products. Unless they power capped it.
But wouldn't the memory bandwidth be a bit troubling for Strix Halo unless the SoC also has a large cache or am I misunderstanding something nowDepends on the clock speeds.
64 GB systems can also give 16-24 GB VRAM to the GPU portion.
If AMD will be able to get to 3 or above GHz clock speed on the core of the GPU while maintaining 120W TDP for whole package - it should be as fast as 6700 XT desktop.
Why does a 40CU GPU need 24 GB vRAM.Depends on the clock speeds.
64 GB systems can also give 16-24 GB VRAM to the GPU portion.
If AMD will be able to get to 3 or above GHz clock speed on the core of the GPU while maintaining 120W TDP for whole package - it should be as fast as 6700 XT desktop.
Sorry to disappoint, but this won't be cheap, but I am not sure what is the price you were thinking about considering those dGPUs have a wide price range depending on what CPU was used with them.ahh well if so, I'm hoping it doesnt get priced above the RTX xx60/xx70 gaming laptop options, and of course as with AMD supplying enough of them will take so fricking long...
CPUs will have their own L3 cache and IGP should also use a separate 32MB cache.But wouldn't the memory bandwidth be a bit troubling for Strix Halo unless the SoC also has a large cache or am I misunderstanding something now
The Apple M Max chip consumes about 100W of power and can sustain it. Strix Halo has a similar 125W TDP. So I guess Strix Halo could fit into the chassis of a Macbook Pro equivalent Windows Laptop.It may use too much power for the cooling solutions and battery they could/would cram into thin n' light products. Unless they power capped it.
It doesn't, but It would "look great" against dGPUs with 1/2 of that.Why does a 40CU GPU need 24 GB vRAM.
Ah ok, and I know it wont be cheap, just thinking that if the 6700 xt is competitive with the 4060/4060Ti in raster performance, or otherwise the 4060/4070 mobile equivalent, but Strix Halo is priced higher or close to..for example a 4080 Lenovo Legion 7i Pro, that could be problematic, no? Otherwise I'm just saying it would be a bit troubling if the SoC costs more than competitive dGPU options for lower performance....Sorry to disappoint, but this won't be cheap, but I am not sure what is the price you were thinking about considering those dGPUs have a wide price range depending on what CPU was used with them.
CPUs will have their own L3 cache and IGP should also use a separate 32MB cache.
According to leaks Strix Halo has 32 MB SLC(inifnity Cache).But wouldn't the memory bandwidth be a bit troubling for Strix Halo unless the SoC also has a large cache or am I misunderstanding something now
So users can be happy that they have as much VRAM as a high end card.Why does a 40CU GPU need 24 GB vRAM.
Large Language Models.Why does a 40CU GPU need 24 GB vRAM.
Ah yes.So users can be happy that they have as much VRAM as a high end card.
What is the reason that mobos now support 256GB RAM with 4 RAM slots?
Not sure how high It will be priced, but ~2000euro is pretty likely in my opinion.Ah ok, and I know it wont be cheap, just thinking that if the 6700 xt is competitive with the 4060/4060Ti in raster performance, or otherwise the 4060/4070 mobile equivalent, but Strix Halo is priced higher or close to..for example a 4080 Lenovo Legion 7i Pro, that could be problematic, no? Otherwise I'm just saying it would be a bit troubling if the SoC costs more than competitive dGPU options for lower performance....
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Heh. So Apple M Max chips are also "Mobile Threadrippers"With 16 Zen 5 cores, 40 CUs, 32 MB of SLC and 256 bit bus Strix Halo fits more "Mobile Threadripper" description than just thin and light gaming on the go