Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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S'renne

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Not sure how high It will be priced, but ~2000euro is pretty likely in my opinion.
You kinda pay not for the IGP but for top CPU performance.
There will most likely be better options from pure FPS/$ ratio.
There would be but the potential of having that much memory for the GPU is pretty tempting as well, especially for a Linux system...dangit though, since in that price range it will have to compete against the xx80 laptops
 

TESKATLIPOKA

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Large Language Models.

I always love when we talk ONLY about gaming, forgetting that use cases for APUs transcend gaming.

With 16 Zen 5 cores, 40 CUs, 32 MB of SLC and 256 bit bus Strix Halo fits more "Mobile Threadripper" description than just thin and light gaming on the go.
That doesn't look like a very widespread hobby for home users If you ask me.
As for corporate, wouldn't a desktop be more cost effective?
I think yes.
 
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There will most likely be better options from pure FPS/$ ratio.
I would be very happy if it kills the reason for OEMs to pair a 3050/4050 with their "gaming" laptops.

At worst, low performing discrete mobile GPUs disappear from laptops.

At best, the company that wants to sell these crap chips with 6GB VRAM is forced to offer more performance for the same money to OEMs, to prevent them from seeing Strix Halo as an attractive alternative.
 

TESKATLIPOKA

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There would be but the potential of having that much memory for the GPU is pretty tempting as well, especially for a Linux system...dangit though, since in that price range it will have to compete against the xx80 laptops
4080 is starting at 2400 euro in my shop and goes easily past >3000.
Even many laptops with 4070 cost more than 2000 euro.
 

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At worst, low performing discrete mobile GPUs disappear from laptops.

At best, the company that wants to sell these crap chips with 6GB VRAM is forced to offer more performance for the same money to OEMs, to prevent them from seeing Strix Halo as an attractive alternative.
In the future, Qualcomm and Nvidia too may offer SoCs with big iGPUs with 256+ bit memory buses.
 

S'renne

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I would be very happy if it kills the reason for OEMs to pair a 3050/4050 with their "gaming" laptops.

At worst, low performing discrete mobile GPUs disappear from laptops.

At best, the company that wants to sell these crap chips with 6GB VRAM is forced to offer more performance for the same money to OEMs, to prevent them from seeing Strix Halo as an attractive alternative.
Probably not unfortunately with the really low supply AMD has for mobile products, like for example the Ryzen 6000 was barely around, even when refreshed into 7x35 HS processors...just here's hoping they actually decide to supply a lot of these too, when looking at their non-existent competitive RDNA 3 dGPU offerings for mobile where Framework and ASUS has RX 7600 r 7700S and nothing else :/
 
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Why should I tell that to a life style company?
Because that lifestyle company dictates the narrative for business workforce. Recently IBM made a survey about whether people like working on Macs in workforce, and it turned out people tend to believe they are more productive with macs, compared to using windows laptops.
 

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I would be very happy if it kills the reason for OEMs to pair a 3050/4050 with their "gaming" laptops.

At worst, low performing discrete mobile GPUs disappear from laptops.

At best, the company that wants to sell these crap chips with 6GB VRAM is forced to offer more performance for the same money to OEMs, to prevent them from seeing Strix Halo as an attractive alternative.
Strix Halo has a more powerful IGP than 3050/4050, let's not talk about the paired CPU.
Against 3050 even strix Point should be pretty decent offering, but that also won't be cheap.
 

S'renne

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Strix Halo has a more powerful IGP than 3050/4050, let's not talk about the paired CPU.
Against 3050 even strix Point should be pretty decent offering, but that also won't be cheap.
most troubling imho besides the pricing is the supply, since AMD has recently not been able to provide competitive mobile dGPU offerings or dGPU pairing offerings, since Lenovo is only offering a Zen 4 Legion 7 this year and there's no telling if it would arrive in 6 months or in 2026/mid-2026 even
 

TESKATLIPOKA

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Because that lifestyle company dictates the narrative for business workforce. Recently IBM made a survey about whether people like working on Macs in workforce, and it turned out people tend to believe they are more productive with macs, compared to using windows laptops.
Really? And the proof should be based on some survey?
 
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