Since Intel is now building a fab in Germany that can only mean salvation for Intel is nigh!!1!AMD won the German DIY market over by building a fab in Dresden 25 years ago when that was still considered cool. There has been pro-AMD purchasing behavior ever since.
The only unknown variables are, that I can think of,Zen 5 will sell like crazy.
I mean only if you want the extra performance. That totally depends on you. But asking if you should replace 12400 sounds a bit absurd since even a 7800X3D spanks it hard right now. Why you wanna cheap out with a 9600 anyway? Get a proper 16-thread CPU unless you have plans to upgrade to the X3D Zen 5 later.Should I replace my 12400 with a 9600?
Which CPU model?Optimal FCLK is the highest you can get, unless you have a board and CPU capable of running RAM at 8000 MT/s and if you don't care about bandwidth and only care about latency ()then you go for 2000 to lower latency by ~3-5 ns). And I guess it's not always true in this case. Currently I've been running 7800 / 2166 for several months, it's extra +17% calc speed in my sparse matrix multiplication app as compared to 6400/2166 (which is 2x faster than my previous setup of 5900x + 3733 CL14 ballistix 4x8 set).
1) yesThe only unknown variables are, that I can think of,
1) Will they have enough stock available?
2) Will the AGESA be mature enough to not cause some sort of controversy due to some buggy issue that is picked up by the media and anti-AMD squad?
3) How they will respond to Intel shouting from the rooftop about their "AI accelerated desktop gaming CPU" aka Arrow Lake?
4) Will they price it so high that sheep will still prefer to buy cheaper ADL/RPL/RPL-R parts?
5) How high existing chipsets will clock the RAM with Zen 5?
6) Will it be overclocked to the gills, leaving no room for tinkerers and hence kinda uninteresting for these people since they like to win the "golden sample" lottery with some overclocking headroom to feel "superior"?
7) How easy will it be to cool?
8) Will AVX-512 workloads cause downclocking enough to negate any benefit from using AVX-512?
9) Will re-compiled software with optimized compilers be required to eek out maximum performance?
1) Source?1) yes
2) yes
3) It's literally called RYZEN AI X
4) frankly a 6 core Zen 5 will probably eat through a 12 core Intel anything, so it's really going to be about Intel being cheaper
5) why would it change?
6) They already bought RPL for those reasons.
7) We're going from roughly 80-170W Z4 to 95-230W for Z5. Shouldn't be a revolution, but one cooler size above. I'm also really curious about what the non-X parts will clock at and how efficient they'll be.
8) WUT?
9) WUT?
7950x3d, but the core count does not matter that much as the app is almost 100% membw bound (with latency mattering a bit more than 0 if smaller-ish models are used).Which CPU model?
They would still offer better bandwidth in workloads that require them. And there is nothing stopping people from downclocking a JEDEC DDR5-6400 stick to lower speeds for better timings. It would've improved their position in benchmarks by review outlets that are too scared and too lazy to pump DDR5 speeds up.JEDEC timings can be pretty bad.
What's the sweet spot this time?According to Gigabyte's leaked slides
9950X
1. ST 5.7 GHz+
2. FCLK 2400
3. DDR5 5600
According to Gigabyte's leaked slides
9950X
1. ST 5.7 GHz+
2. FCLK 2400
3. DDR5 5600
I was going to say an FCLK of 2400 and DDR5 5600 wouldnt be 1:1 right?What's the sweet spot this time?
Doesn't work that way on AM5 as far as I'm aware, FCLK and UCLK are not linked together on AM5. 6000 is probably enough. I'm not that knowlegable on ram ocIf FLCK is 2400 what memory speed for 1:1?
Did you miss my previous post? http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...dge-ryzen-9000.2607350/page-468#post-41219873So if FCLK is 2000 then we are looking at DDR5 6000 being the optimal 1:1 speed? As I said I have not paid alot of attention here over the past few years so forgive my noob questions.
If FLCK is 2400 what memory speed for 1:1?
We dont know how high the X870 + Zen5 combo can run in 1:1 mode yet, but if we follow the logic from Zen4 we get the following "optimal/synced settings"What's the sweet spot this time?
No, fabs aren't cool anymore. Not green and need billions of subsidies.Since Intel is now building a fab in Germany that can only mean salvation for Intel is nigh!!1!
Maybe its just best to ignore everything from that Gigabyte "leak" since atleast one picture in the deck is a known fake..I'd just ignore 2400 fclk for the time being so no one would be disappointed if Gigabyte meant the current default fclk setting for Zen4 APUs
Zen 5 will sell like crazy. I say this as an Apple M sheep. Any hardware nerd will go nuts over it.
Im curious if Zen 5 will be able to beat Zen 4 v-cache parts out of the gate. I'm guessing there will be some outliers where the 3D part just does better regardless, but the average might be a point of contention.
No.If i wanted to replace Zen4 with 5, but keep my current mobo and 6000MHz RAM (as in definitely not replacing those), does this higher FLCK and RAM speed stuff even concern me?