Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Mopetar

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@adroc_thurston No new AM4 parts eh?


Seems kind of pointless. The 5950X is already available for what the 5900XT is purported to retail for. The 5800X is quite a bit cheaper than what the article says the 5800XT will retail for and the extra 100 MHz isn't worth it and for most people a 5700X3D/5600X3D is probably better than either of those.
 

Abwx

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Seems kind of pointless. The 5950X is already available for what the 5900XT is purported to retail for. The 5800X is quite a bit cheaper than what the article says the 5800XT will retail for and the extra 100 MHz isn't worth it and for most people a 5700X3D/5600X3D is probably better than either of those.

They will surely have sligtly better MT perf, same as the 5600GT vs 5600G,
so not that pointless.



 

Thunder 57

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Seems kind of pointless. The 5950X is already available for what the 5900XT is purported to retail for. The 5800X is quite a bit cheaper than what the article says the 5800XT will retail for and the extra 100 MHz isn't worth it and for most people a 5700X3D/5600X3D is probably better than either of those.

Wait so the 5900XT is a 16 core? AMD marketing always finding a way to fail . I could see a market for that though, if priced right. It could be another 5700X, or as TomsHardware said, "A price cut disguised as a new chip". The 5800XT though would be pointless.
 

Thunder 57

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Meanwhile the people that are really "in the know" are probably laughing at him. I mean we have a thread here asking if MLID is a legitimate source. We'll see soon enough how it all pans out.
 

Markfw

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Quadrupling down on the Zen 5 ipc info

IPI + 15%, whatever that means
AVX512 + 30%
Above average gaming performance uplift when games use > 8 cores.

Zen5c = Q1 2025
Turin AI = canceled

I have been seeing an add for days for AI in the data center. So it must be turin.
 

Thunder 57

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He covered all ground so that he can take a victory lap if Turin Dense is on time or if it is late.

Hell, maybe I should start up a Youtube channel and claim nonsense and get paid. This clown show does it and people still watch him. Even after that fake slide that he ran with. Supposedly he gets interviews but what would I know? I don't financially support a fraud.
 

del42sa

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OTOH, the 800-series chipsets were real, so he had a real stuff from mobo makers, back then. It's not black&white and 100% making up stuff.
and I believe those are main sources of his "leaks" and yes it´s not 100% black of white, but we should always judge them very carefully, especially with the interpretation of some details, when something gets easily "lost in translation" YouTube leakers love inventing stuff and spreading it over 30 minutes, because their main purpose is to get as much click as possible
 
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FlameTail

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Hell, maybe I should start up a Youtube channel and claim nonsense and get paid. This clown show does it and people still watch him. Even after that fake slide that he ran with. Supposedly he gets interviews but what would I know? I don't financially support a fraud.
Can you match his charisma?

I think that's why he's so popular.
 

Thunder 57

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and I believe those are main sources of his "leaks" and yes it´s not 100% black of white, but we should always judge them very carefully, especially with the interpretation of some details, when something gets easily "lost in translation" YouTube leakers love inventing stuff and spreading it over 30 minutes, because their main purpose is to get as much click as possible

Agreed. I refuse to watch videos longer than 10 minutes unless there are chapters. Even then it's close. This is why I miss articles rather than youtubers. At least GamersNexus has gone back to include articles after the videos.
 

biostud

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AMD rode it very much for Z4.
Competition!
As I see it they basically launches CPUs with max performance, and then you can relatively easy improve efficiency by lowering TDP in the BIOS, if you don't mind a minor performance loss.

The good thing about the vcache models are that they are already at a better efficiency point and offer great gaming performance. While sacrificing a few percent in other workloads.
 
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