I don't see how AMD sets the MSRP for the 9700X at $299 when the MSRP for the 7700X was $399. It is true though that Zen 4 prices cratered pretty quickly. Maybe AMD learned from that. I doubt it. They can be their own worst enemy at times.
Based previous performance uplift from zen 2, 3 and 4.Based on what? Overblown expectations?
I did say "for us plebs". Still waiting for an official review but it doesn't seem it will be anything different than what Amd said aka 16% is 16% and not anything else.We need to keep in mind that datacenter is a more strategic area for AMD, and in datacenter (and HPC), there are more uses of AVX-512. For example, AI differencing running on CPU, without a GPU. That may be far more economical approach for lightly loaded system without spending arm and a leg on NVidia hardware.
We may hear more about this at the time of official Turin release.
Lmao, GPU comp is hotter than ever.a strong contrast to the GPU world where everything is Nvidia dominated.
Well, there are multiple things at play.Based previous performance uplift from zen 2, 3 and 4.
I did say "for us plebs". Still waiting for an official review but it doesn't seem it will be anything different than what Amd said aka 16% is 16% and not anything else.
Ugh, no, logic is the only thing that scales.Node jumps are getting smaller and smaller, meaning you can cram less additional circuitry with each generation.
How do you know this? Is this an assumption?Third, N3B being sort of a dud and Zen 5 being back ported to N4 means that some stuff was likely cut.
I said "likely cut".How do you know this? Is this an assumption?
If AMD really wanted 3nm, they could have done N3E.
I did say "for us plebs". Still waiting for an official review but it doesn't seem it will be anything different than what Amd said aka 16% is 16% and not anything else.
oh it does, but shrink factors are nowhere near as big. Intel targeted what, 2.7x increase in density with their back-then 10nm node? Whereas N3 vs N5 is like a 1.7x increase for logic.Ugh, no, logic is the only thing that scales.
What you can't pile on is cache or shoreline I/O.
How do you know this? Is this an assumption?
If AMD really wanted 3nm, they could have done N3E.
Not in market share. I go by that. It’s funny you think its hot.Lmao, GPU comp is hotter than ever.
3NE is a decent node. AMD should have gone for that for client too.If AMD really wanted 3nm, they could have done N3E.
Client MSS irrelevant, GPGPU wars are in full force now.Not in market share. I go by that. It’s funny you think its hot.
That was never sane or reasonable or even possible.Intel targeted what, 2.7x increase in density with their back-then 10nm node?
They did.How do you know this? Is this an assumption?
If AMD really wanted 3nm, they could have done N3E.
Ugh, no, logic is the only thing that scales.
What you can't pile on is cache or shoreline I/O.
Who knows!is X3D launching September?
Might wait till then
yeah I see now 😂😂you OK bud?🤣
That's only 2 months after the stock zen 5. Why is amd launching X3D parts much sooner than zen 2 and 3 equivalents?is X3D launching September?
Might wait till then
If that launch is true I guess this time they are not concerned with X3D parts affecting vanilla Zen 5 sales?That's only 2 months after the stock zen 5. Why is amd launching X3D parts much sooner than zen 2 and 3 equivalents?
If that launch is true I guess this time they are not concerned with X3D parts affecting vanilla Zen 5 sales?
How so?Or they are concerned that Zen 5 will be a dud because the 7800X3D is faster in games.
Desktop DIY seemingly cares about gaming performance over everything else. If AMD wants to move Zen 5 chips they’re betting it’ll have to be packaged with X3D.How so?