How much die area does that Pluton thijg use?Every AMD part since RMB (VGH, really) ships with the tumor.
Pluton is an offshoot of Xbox security processor so AMD shipping it was expected.
Super tiny.How much die area does that Pluton thijg use?
Less, even.<5 mm² bet.
X Elite seems to use it as well, I wonder how Intels does manage to avoid it, i would guess Microsoft could easily make them implement it.Every AMD part since RMB (VGH, really) ships with the tumor.
I'm pretty sure LNL has Pluton.X Elite seems to use it as well, I wonder how Intels does manage to avoid it, i would guess Microsoft could easily make them implement it.
Charlies new Snapdragon Rant Article from today makes it sound like it doesn't, that's why im wondering.I'm pretty sure LNL has Pluton
YepI'm pretty sure LNL has Pluton.
Maybe something like Cinebench or Vray will run at 5,7GHz all-coreSince TDP for 8C Zen5 CPUs is low at 65W, can we expect MT perf on 16C Zen5 to be high at 170W TDP compared to Zen4 16C? I’m thinking there will be more power budget per core on 16C Zen5 compared to the 8C variant (vs Zen4 which was 105W at 8C and 170W at 16C), so high perf on multiple cores for longer should be possible on 16C Zen5.
No, I doubt thatMaybe something like Cinebench or Vray will run at 5,7GHz all-core
I would like to point out one thing.
If the scores for Strix Point arer correct, and there is zero reason for them to be fake, or mistaken, then we are very close to 2060 mobile performance, and Zen 6 APUs might actually be within the range of that performance.
2060 is 6000 pts in 3D Mark TS. With 24 CUs/12 WGPs, and any form of SLC/Infinity cache - we might get it in an APU.
different swimlane for much more $$$.Strix Halo should be able to exceed it before Zen 6
Really? )Phoenix shows diminishing returns if it is allowed to go up to 72W almost as it it was a desktop APU:
72 / 54 = 1.33 power increase, 3218 / 2791 = 1.152 score increase
Or maybe the GFX clock in Rdna 3.5 decently higher than that in Rdna 3.0 GPU at the same power?3712 / 4221 = 1.13 >> something in RDNA 3.5 consumes significantly less power
different swimlane for much more $$$.
Not comparable.
STX1 indeed explicitly targets >$1200 SRP.From just eyeballing the Strix Point notebooks previewed / leaked, a lot of them come with NVidia GPU. Priced in $1500+ range. Which would make them at rough price parity with Strix Halo.
Yeah but they're a wee bit later.I hope there are also some Strix Point models without dGPU at lower prices...
I hope there are also some Strix Point models without dGPU at lower prices...
If you meant to compare TS graphics scores, I didn't see it explicitly stated on the benchmarks page. They look more like an overall scores to me.2060 is 6000 pts in 3D Mark TS. With 24 CUs/12 WGPs, and any form of SLC/Infinity cache - we might get it in an APU.
Nope, ~3200 gfx score is about in line with top PHX scores (i.e. 1.21gigawatts into the iGP).They look more like an overall scores to me.
GPD Win Max 2 is 8840U. The top gfx scores are in 3000-3100 range. Top overall scores are 3300-3400Nope, ~3200 gfx score is about in line with top PHX scores (i.e. 1.21gigawatts into the iGP).
You can just lurk thru the 3dmark db anyway.
70W PHX is very much like 3.2k GFX score on the latest AGESA.GPD Win Max 2 is 8840U. The top gfx scores are in 3000-3100 range
Where did you get 70W from? Win max 2 is 8840U with cTDP 15-30W, not the 7840HS70W PHX is very much like 3.2k GFX score on the latest AGESA.
See all the freshes 7840HS results, they're up there.
GPD itself literally quotes 72W results.Where did you get 70W from?
May be so. It's just that the bar value usually means overall TS score unless explicitly stated otherwise.GPD itself literally quotes 72W results.
What is the expectation for Lunar Lake iGPU. Vs. Meteor Lake and vs. Strix Point?The new 890M should be on par with M4 GPU performance wise.( I can why Apple focuses on gaming more in their keynotes their GPUs are no joke but it’s not plug and play using the toolkit. )
That 890M should rule windows ultrabook/handheld gaming for a while.
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Death.What is the expectation for Lunar Lake iGPU. Vs. Meteor Lake and vs. Strix Point?