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7800X3D screenshot there with following results:

time to sort (in seconds): 16s (first run)
time to sort (in seconds): 10s (second run)

I can confirm seeing with my own eyes, a mysterious CPU posting score of 11s and then 7s on the 2nd run.

Cannot say or post anything else.

But feel free to bench the hell out of this Excel sheet and see how fast your CPU can get.

I think 14900K, Elite X and M3/M4 have a chance of getting close to this score or even beating it.

We only find out if interested users here try
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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7800X3D screenshot there with following results:

time to sort (in seconds): 16s (first run)
time to sort (in seconds): 10s (second run)

I can confirm seeing with my own eyes, a mysterious CPU posting score of 11s and then 7s on the 2nd run.

Cannot say or post anything else.

But feel free to bench the hell out of this Excel sheet and see how fast your CPU can get.

I think 14900K, Elite X and M3/M4 have a chance of getting close to this score or even beating it.

We only find out if interested users here try
A mysterious CPU model "X95XX" I presume.
 
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This comes close. But dang, I really wanna see what a 14900K can manage. Or M3 or even M4.

Crazy ST bound benchmark. In a few years, this benchmark will either hit a wall or you press start, the screen flashes and it tells you that the benchmark completed in a second or two!

Even faster in Linux: LibreCalc on Gentoo: 14 seconds with 9900K @ 5.0GHz and RAM at 4000MHz C16-1T
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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You gotta tweak the hell out of your CPU and have great cooling too. That's why I said it's a crazy benchmark. Now imagine getting it done in 11 secs at stock! I hope that materializes or who knows, final silicon is even faster!
It is tuned 6400C30 2133FCLK. It's not just a stocker 7950X. I imagine there's something finicky about this benchmark.

Also, judging from your previous posts regarding this mystery CPU, it sounds like it's the opposite of stock.
 

CouncilorIrissa

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I know clock reporting is probably all over the place but here's another Strix run. 2300 pts at 3.3 GHz (??).

Could it be that this is a case of the C-core cluster clocks being reported, rather than vanilla? I think Huang said that they were running at around 3.3 GHz.
 

deasd

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This comes close. But dang, I really wanna see what a 14900K can manage. Or M3 or even M4.

Crazy ST bound benchmark. In a few years, this benchmark will either hit a wall or you press start, the screen flashes and it tells you that the benchmark completed in a second or two!

Even faster in Linux: LibreCalc on Gentoo: 14 seconds with 9900K @ 5.0GHz and RAM at 4000MHz C16-1T

I feel surreal that proactive member like Igor suddenly become a leaker.

Not joking. I don't know how relative the Excel test from OC forum to Techpowerup's Excel test is, the gap between vanilla and V-cache looks similar to OC forum's one:

 
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Det0x

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It is tuned 6400C30 2133FCLK. It's not just a stocker 7950X. I imagine there's something finicky about this benchmark.

Also, judging from your previous posts regarding this mystery CPU, it sounds like it's the opposite of stock.
Just as a note for my 7950x run quoted above, i ran static 5850mhz for my submission (this is pretty much a ST benchmark)
And you have to use LibreCalc, its much faster than excel

Test date: 13.02.2023
CPU: 7950x
#Cores: 16Cores/32threads
CPU clock speed: 5850mhz
Total system memory: 32Gb DDR5
memory speed: 6600MT/s, 2200FCLK (same results @ 6400MT/s)
Libre office version: 7.5.0
32/64 bit: 64bit
time to sort (in seconds): 14s (first run)
time to sort (in seconds): 9s (second run)



 

Hans Gruber

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Will the Zen 5 3D cache finally match the clocks for the standard CPU? Why does AMD not completely fix their heat/voltage problem with the 3D cache chips? They really should actually be faster than the X version CPU's for the price premium they have been charging in the past. You get a weaker CPU with better gaming performance in the 3D v-cache CPU's.
 

Timmah!

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You gotta tweak the hell out of your CPU and have great cooling too. That's why I said it's a crazy benchmark. Now imagine getting it done in 11 secs at stock! I hope that materializes or who knows, final silicon is even faster!
There is some serious tweaking to be made, if your result is 14s and theirs 29s. OCing to 10 GHz should do the trick i guess😁
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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Just as a note for my 7950x run quoted above, i ran static 5850mhz for my submission (this is pretty much a ST benchmark)
And you have to use LibreCalc, its much faster than excel

Test date: 13.02.2023
CPU: 7950x
#Cores: 16Cores/32threads
CPU clock speed: 5850mhz
Total system memory: 32Gb DDR5
memory speed: 6600MT/s, 2200FCLK (same results @ 6400MT/s)
Libre office version: 7.5.0
32/64 bit: 64bit
time to sort (in seconds): 14s (first run)
time to sort (in seconds): 9s (second run)

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I guess I missed the part about it has to be run in librecalc. I thought it was an optional "it scores even better" like loading linux to run geekbench. Did not realize every score being quoted was from librecalc.
 

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Ryzen 9000 series desktop CPUs listed for pre-order at Funtech store in Slovenia now, shipping at earliest 2 August. Pricing revealed too.


 
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